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Thanks hungan1 :)

WRONG!!! It's not their only path, That tie did not hurt us as bad as you are making it out. I mean, we moved up from #18 or was it #19 up to a tie for 17th. We already have the comparison against ND. But a win surely would have helped us catch up to the teams ahead of us more quickly...

I already discussed this at another site. If you look back BEFORE we played our ooc opponents, almost half of them had big seasons 2-6 years before we scheduled them. I don't have my notes handy, but trust me. But just off the top of my head, I can name a few of them. Oregon St made the Top...

Anyone got any info on the PWOs?

If we somehow pull off that Iowa game, along with our ooc games of course, then look the F out B1G, because then we could have another season like 2019, if not a little better. And if we could go without losing any players early to the NFL after 2020, our 2021 squad could be truly special. Great...

Well, that's ok, we all make mistakes, like how I forgot Maryland was in the ACC back in 2010-11, and you were technically right since the Coaches Poll is just as legit as the AP poll. I hope we DO finish Top 8 in 2020. At another sports site I predicted we'd lose to OSU in the B1G Title game...

Well, first of all, Clemson did NOT finish the season ranked #9. They went into their bowl game ranked #14, and beat #9 LSU by 1 pt and moved up to #11 in the Final EOS AP poll. Did the Coaches Poll have them at #9 or something? Clemson finished 2011 ranked #22, UMn ended 2019 ranked #10...

My take? Well, that is really hard to say, I have a ton of confidence in Fleck's recruiting ability/ability to find the right guys to fit into his system, and I also think he's great at coaching them up. But with so many new faces coming in to start on defense, and the Iowa game being so early...

11-2 would be a push? Really? Clemson played 2 ranked teams in 2012 and lost to both of them. They did however beat #14 LSU in their bowl game. Between Michigan, Wisc & Iowa, I'm sure we'll do better than 0-2, and if any of them finish #14 or better and we beat them, we could lose to the...

Clemson 2010 vs Minnesota 2018 Lost to #1 vs Lost to #3 Lost to #17 vs BEAT # 18 Lost to #22 vs Lost to #21 Beat #23 vs Lost to #25 Beat #25 vs Beat 8-5 RV Wisc Lost to UR USF vs Beat UR G Tech Lost to UR vs Lost...

EOS = End Of Season. Duh! Never heard of EOS rankings? http://www.collegepollarchive.com/ There you go. No one EVER has won a Natl Title by making #1 in the polls after week 1 or 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 or 6 or 7 or 8, etc.. Only by being #1 in the EOS rankings, has a team EVER won a Natl...

Win the vast majority of our games going out, might get us into the NCAA tourney, or just win the Conf Tourney and get in, and do like UMD a couple years ago, barely slip into the tourney and then win the thing. I'm not predicting anything, just saying, UMD proved it's not impossible.

You know, to outsiders, I'd never say this, but we are all Gopher fans here, so I'll let myself say this... 9-4 in 2016? So what? Who the hell did we beat? We only played 2 ranked teams and lost to them both. Our other two losses were to teams who, granted, did receive votes in the...

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Well how convenient that you picked the rankings at the time of the games, lol. Kind of manipulative if you ask me. Who cares how OVERRATED a team was when someone beat them? Well, unless you are trying to manipulate the narrative to fit the argument you WANT to make? Miami in 2010 was ranked...

Of course they don't think of his 2nd season, seeing as it was a losing season, or probably his 3rd season either, as he lost 4 games and not a single conf win was vs a team that finished in the rankings. But yeah look what he's done with Clemson since then. THAT is the point. If someone as...

Dabo's 2nd season, was a losing season. His third year he went 10-4. Fleck's 2nd season, was a winning season. His 3rd year he went 11-2. How has Fleck not measured up to Dabo yet?

Have you ever seen anyone do what Fleck has done with so little to work with? Not just once, BUT TWICE, as he made a similar big jump at WMU.

Why? Why is it still a way low odds wise? Hot new coach, arguably a better coach than Dabo after each's first 3 years, at least, brand spanking new top notch, no, not top notch, instead a new "ELITE" Practice Facilities and Student Village to help with recruiting, and a roster chock full of...