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If Q wins it, it'll be fully and completely deserved. They've been better. By a long shot.

That would be a very typically "pride on ice" conclusion for this program.

Lose 4-3. Get completely outplayed when the chips are down. Rinse, repeat. Gopher pucks in a nutshell. NCAA tourney favorite? I dare them to prove it.

And so would the media. The coverage of the 1997 team (prior to the scandal) was front page news in the sports section.

Is this a serious topic or a bit? Asking for a mildly amused observer.

Completely agree. And it's become the ad hominem, phrase of choice to continually excuse losing in the current time frame. How do we know? Because it never changes. It's always "gotta be patient" while losing season after losing season continue unabated. At this point, it's as empty a sentiment...

With any other coach, that would definitely be the case. But since Coyle, the U and the general public still look at Whalen with nothing but nostalgia in their eyes, she'll get at least a year or two more. Not putting together a single decent team yet doesn't matter. She's Lindsay Whalen. And...

Little things like premeditated murder don't mean much when compared the big things (like winning basketball games). It is Alabama after all.

No kidding. Where are people coming up with this nonsense? Michigan State is 16-9 overall and 8-6 in the Big Ten. And this is a down year for them. If we had this record, people would be calling for parades and statues of the coach. Just bonkers.

Wow is Liebert laying it on thick with this. Two straight last place finishes? Pfft. Let's start talking about the NIT and NCAA! How about this: Win more than a couple of freaking conference games, not finish dead last and then move on from there. At this point, there is no evidence anywhere...

At this point, it'd probably be Whalen. But in all honesty, Coyle should be first on the chopping block for the utter mess he has brought to both basketball programs.

Not surprising. Look at Indiana and look at Whalen's team. It was a no brainer for her to leave.

Really? Laughable at this point.

Revisionist history is the bestest history. Right?

Fair enough.

Exactly. It's purely a dollars versus product equation. And the numbers speak for themselves.

Learning how to be a Big 10 basketball coach is most definitely not behind Whalen. She's yet to field a truly competitive team in her coaching career and this year is more of the same. So, she's very much still learning. At least I hope so, because if this is what we get after "learning" how to...

No, they're not. The Strib just ran an article by Marcus that gave the "tickets paid" number and it was between 8,000 and 9,000, not the 10,500 you claim. And trust me, if the teams continue at the bottom, they won't even be selling that many, much less scanning them.

Better hope so. Otherwise, the whole experiment of hiring coaches based solely on being former Gophers and Minnesota natives might not look so good, right?

Uh oh, somebody is mad that I pointed out the freaking obvious. Truth hurts. And I've been a fan of both programs for more than three decades. But, you're right, the U needs less fans who actually care about the programs. That is also obvious from the attendance numbers.