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But all the other excuses laid out for Ben don't matter. Fire him, let him go work under someone who knows X' & O's for a long period of time, then let another school take a chance on him. Our home state school has given him a long enough leash, it is time to cut the cord.

Yup, both guys, the guy I speak of and the guy you speak of look like coaches who can teach a system. Johnson, after 4 years, has shown he can't or maybe it is just that he doesn't have one.

Well I can't argue with you there. Bill Self is well paid no doubt.

Well, they are very good at being bad.

I watch a great offense every time I watch a KU BB game.

Nope

The Seton Hall/VCU game had a good ending. I felt VCU kind of pissed the win away at the end of regulation.

^^^THIS^^^

It also points to, coaching matters!!

I wasn't a big fan of the movie. Don't like coffee either. LOL I guess that's why I'm not a closer. That being said, are you tired of the injury excuse? Or should we just go with Johnson is terrible and be done with it?

For 4 years now it seems that the "healthy" crutch is used. I think for the most part no team goes through the year unscathed when it comes to injuries. One of the sales managers I have had during my professional career is a college BB women's HOF inductee player. She used to tell us, "excuses...

Not to get off track here and steal a thread. However, what you stated above is something we should do every day.

4 games into the season and he has already started to shorten his bench. 7 guys with meaningful minutes yesterday. He can feel the hands around his neck tighten as he starts to choke away season #4

I don't get that either. Sconny has been a pretty consistent top 20-30 program for sometime. Now if the Gopher were to beat the Wildcats storm away. However storming the court has become way to routine these days.

What year was Tim Olson the main man on the Orr BB team? 79, 80 somewhere in there?

Foshi

Where did Nate grow up?

How in the world can the best game of possibly the weekend, Bama vs the Boilermaker not be on some major network? TERRIBLE for college BB fans

Go get'em!!!!

So there is/was a coaching position worse than the Gopher job? https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/biggest-coaching-gamble-in-college-basketball-why-chris-holtmann-decided-to-take-a-chance-on-lowly-depaul/