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A 9-3 gopher team could have had an outside shot at the playoff. Thats just true. But it doesn’t really matter. And it was completely contingent on there not being many teams with just 2 losses in the power 4. Currently there are 19 2 loss teams in the power 4 for seemingly 11 spots (assuming...

This would be a really good strategy unless it works. Because if it worked then someone would pay him more to steal him. Do you then up the contract to keep him or do you go get another 500k coach?

Coyle made a good football hire last time Coyle ran a good process for basketball hire for the men’s side just picked the wrong person. I’m not as down on Coyle as some. I would guess Coyle will be gone before he fires fleck. So if Coyle is making the hire it means fleck left. I don’t think...

It might be my age but to me Illinois in 2007 going 9-3 but getting a lucky rose bowl birth because of oddities in the BCS schedule doesn’t mean that much more to me than 2003, 2014, 2016, 2021, 2022. So really the big separator is the 2001 big ten title for me. Would I take this trade...

Agree but even with beilema their record has been: 5-7 8-5 5-7 6-3 And as bad as the gophers gave the divisions away in 2021 and 2022…Illinois gave it away worse in 2022 by losing to 4-8 Indiana, 5-7 Michigan state, and the same Purdue team the gophers lost to

At some point 3-6 will not be good enough. Currently 4-3. At some point 4-5 not good enough. I would guess we will need to have another season finishing top 20 in the country for him to be the coach in fall 2028. Could happen before that.

Illinois has had 11 seasons with 4 or fewer wins since 2000. 19 losing seasons. From an entertainment standpoint that would be a brutal 25 years to watch even with those two seasons. I certainly understand the other position.

I disagree with that. Illinois has had 19 losing seasons since 2000 They have had 11 seasons with 4 or fewer wins I wish the gophers had a big ten title. But for entertainment value I am not sure 2 good seasons outweighs the 19 bad ones. For comparison, the gophers have had 10 losing seasons...

Correct. That game was probably not a 50/50 game but it was closer to a 50/50 game than a game Minnesota was a no brainer winner. We just aren’t that good right now on the line. Which means if the other teams QB out plays us for a half, we have problems. If we get field goals instead of...

For sure Although. Would you rather have Illinois last 25 years our ours? They have a 2001 big ten title and a 2007 rose bowl. I might take ours anyways…

When you have more confidence in random hire having a 10 win season the next 3 than fleck, that’s when you make the move. Right now, I think fleck is more likely to win 10 before 2026 than Random G5 coach or random P5 coordinator. Definitely could get Cignetti. Could also get Purdue guy. Could...

Would have to look at the teams but I would Guess the average is a little under 7 wins regular season. At some point fleck has to show that last year and this year are the floor not the ceiling. He probably needs to show that by the end of 2025 or 2026. Last year was below average: this year is...

You represent me and I care about myself than I care about others

With only 5 auto bids, I would’ve preferred an 8 team bracket.

We literally don’t run the same scheme.

If this team tries to pound it they won’t win. They haven’t been able to run all year. College football is completely different than when he was hired. It remains to be seen if fleck is a good hire in the NIL+free agency era

How many teams in the power 4 have multiple 9 win seasons the past 5 years? That is a different question that we haven’t discussed You’ll have to take it up with the moderators. You may want to consider getting some help for your anger

You’re flat out wrong at that. Half the coaches in the country would not have multiple 9 win seasons at MN

Correct. Would be better + more fun for there just to be split conference titles. However, it’s probably worth over a million per school to play the game. I seem to remember the game being worth 20-25 million when Nebraska was added. I assume that it’s worth close to 40-50 now (until people stop...