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    An amazing collection of things I didn’t see coming

    I think this is too early to call. I still think AK can be a mid to higher level B1G QB - the problem is that he is not being put into a position where it is possible for him to succeed and he has received zero help from the WRs and TEs, especially BSF, who should have been the veteran relief...
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    Describe the Gophers loss to Purdue in 1 sentence

    If the coaches, players, and school don't care about winning, why should I?
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    I don't know where my fandom goes from here...

    So being ranked #18 and then dropping 2 more games (meaning they lost 3 games straight and 4 of their last 5) would not have dropped them out of the polls? I guess we can all have our own opinions.
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    I don't know where my fandom goes from here...

    You are correct, I was using the final CFP ranking prior to the bowls. In 2014, they dropped out due to the bowl loss for the season final AP poll.
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    I don't know where my fandom goes from here...

    Sorry, but I completely disagree. Record matters, but when the losses and wins occur matters more. If we were #18 and then lose 2 games in a row, you will drop out of the top 25 unless it is a very close loss to a top ranked team.
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    I don't know where my fandom goes from here...

    Different assumptions. I assume that IA or WI lost more than they did so we sneak into the game with the same 10-2 record. We entered the Auburn game at #18. So, assuming all else would have been the same, we would have entered the B1G championship game at #18. Assuming we lose to tOSU, we...
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    I don't know where my fandom goes from here...

    Frankly, I think it has the potential to make it worse - not better. Could you imagine if in 2019, we win the West and then face tOSU in the title game? I would image we would have been smashed and then went into a game - not vs. Auburn (who had nothing to play for) and would maybe have not won...
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    I don't know where my fandom goes from here...

    For the Gophers, I have long given up hope of winning a B1G title. I don’t even have the expectation of winning a West or “Leaders and Legends” title (especially with the expanded B1G). For me, the measuring bar is being ranked in the top 25 – preferably at the end of the season. Since my time...
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    I hate to post this, but Iowa/Wisconsin is more than likely

    The B1G 'Championship Game' will only be AT BEST the 4th most important game of the season for the B1G after Michigan/tOSU, Michigan/PSU, and tOSU/PSU. Heck, I would even argue tOSU vs. Notre Dame was more important.
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    Durr: Man I love my school so much and everything the program has done for me. We have to find that edge and grit again. That start in the locker room

    I like that the players are trying to address this - but again - sounds like they know some of them have quit on the team and coaching staff. We are only halfway into the season so it is bad to have this happen now but hopefully it will serve as a wake up call to everyone (coaching included)...
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    Michigan Fans

    With all the ridicule we endure as fans of team that has not been relevant since the adoption of color television - please do not add snowflake fanbase to the list. I am begging you.
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    Michigan Fans

    No Normally, I would always cheer for the B1G team in any bowl game. However, with the expanded B1G, in a few years time it will be the equivalent of cheering for the NFC or AFC - not as special for me as the B1G is too big. I can even say I am still more likely to watch the game if it...
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    Michigan Fans

    Never once did I say 'lesser fan'. What I said is that there tends to be a pile on of obnoxious bandwagon fans that have no affiliation with a school when it is performing well - and those will be first ones off the bandwagon when things go bad. Sorry, but in my experience I find this to be...
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    Michigan Fans

    It is just an observation. I think most will probably agree with the Badgers as well. Before Alvarez, they were mostly tolerable. After, they have a huge bandwagon of fans that never attended Madison that are obnoxious. Not to say that the ones that attended Madison are not - but it is in a...
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    This is surreal. Gophers had 5 passes in the 2nd half last night. 5!!!!

    It is not surreal. It is our coaches quitting and the team quitting. We went into the half down 14 with 7 of those points coming on a pick 6 + XP. Not to say that we had momentum and were ready to rally back in the 2nd half - but we didn't even try. Our coaches balled up and so did the...
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    Michigan Fans

    I think tOSU is similar to the Badgers - a ton of their vocal diehard fans have no actual connection to the university. For whatever reason, this tends to lead to more obnoxious fan bases.
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    Michigan Fans

    Most of my interactions with Michigan fans were through work (mainly at Intel which recruited MI heavily) so these are people that actually attended and not the casual fan with no actual connection to the university. My take was that they have zero allegiance to the Big Ten overall and only...
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    Honest Question: What does PJ bring to the table?

    Could be because most of their fans are from out of the area. So, make it into travel to take in 2 teams on the same trip. But outside of that, I agree with you.
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    Honest Question: What does PJ bring to the table?

    Are you being serious right now? In 2018, we already had Tyler Johnson, Mo, and Bateman as recognized stars. On D, we had Winfield. I don't think anyone expected 12 wins in 2019, but the main pieces were already performing in 2018. Heck, maybe I am wrong and we will win 3 of our remaining...
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    Honest Question: What does PJ bring to the table?

    In the history of Gopher football or football in general, how many times did you hear teams say that they fired a head coach too soon vs. saying that they should have acted faster? Fleck should not be fired based on the results this season - but if next year looks the same, he should be...



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