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Thanks for the response Slim Tubby. It's an awkward position to be in as a fan. I understand the viewpoints on both sides. Maybe it's not a perfect analogy to the professional game. But the worst case scenario was always landing in a place far from postseason consideration but good enough to...

Congrats. You complained about the refs quicker than you normally do.

Can his ass! Worst four year stretch in program history! Coyle should follow him out the door! Is that better?

Not relevant to your initial position and frankly I wasn't even challenging it. Some view winning a few games in February as harmful to the overall health of the program as it might lead to a different decision on the head coach. You don't. That's fine. I was honestly just curious if you...

Would you root against a pro sports team that is in line to get a top pick in the draft......such as the N.Y. Giants last year (losing out on one of the top two quarterbacks potentially by winning a meaningless game in December)?

You also don't let him (or anybody else that has been responsible) anywhere near the process of setting the schedule for next year. He has unnecessarily knee-capped his own team both of the last two years and led to his very poor tournament profiles despite a handful of Q1 wins. I'd have more...

Even under your first scenario, what do you really lose? Are you worried about the buy-out dollars? I've heard the argument the grass isn't always greener if you make a change. The problem with that mentality is the grass doesn't get much browner than it is right now. Fan apathy is at an all...

Maybe an 18 year kid just wants to try something else? I just don't understand why we still care so much about this "locking down the border". Wisconsin hasn't drawn away the elite NBA level Minnesota kids like Suggs/Jones/Holmgren. They have pulled kids like Crowl/Illikainen/Wahl/Winter...

The recent rash of articles in support of Ben Johnson is laughable on the surface but also depressing under one of two scenarios. 1) If Ben Johnson is "elite" and "the only choice", the implication is we have reached our ceiling and that ceiling is Northwestern. An NCAA trip in year five, six...

I agree. But it misses the point about why this program hasn't been successful. We have had plenty of Minnesota kids play here.

I agree. The lack of hard evidence is frustrating. Clearly this wasn't a hire based on a B1G-worthy resume. You and I discussed this is in a thread a couple years ago. Patrick Reusse stated on the following SKOR podcast that Dutcher was Coyle's first choice but he was overruled (see 13:00...

I hope you are right and I'm not necessarily making a prediction. I'm just not nearly as confident as others that a change is imminent. I've felt for a long time the NIL landscape will offer him a longer leash as opposed to a shorter one. What's he going to do after all? Poor Ben! I...

I might agree with you in general but we never hear anything from Coyle so that is par for the course with him.

He will have much better options if he decides to move.

The universal support across many of the local media members is certainly surprising and frankly concerning if you are in the camp that would like to see a change. We can all dismiss Doogie/Shooter/Marcus/LEN/others for their viewpoints but the fact remains they all have better access to this...

I can't read the entirety of this article without a subscription but the first few paragraphs says it all. I could have never imagined any scenario 10/15 years ago where we would be aspiring to have the level of success of Northwestern. The depths to which this program has sunk is...

Only 140 more pages to catch the "Ben Johnson is a Disaster" thread. No, I'm not making this up.

shhhhhh....don't let the local media or Mark Coyle hear you say that.

Are we officially off the bubble?

Is that because the bottom is better or the top is worse? (on the men's side) Maybe some of both.