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Sure, and Crowl didn't contribute very much as a Freshman. His breakout year was during his Sophomore season. I'm hopeful Grove has a similar trajectory. Wisconsin also has a long history of developing players into contributors by their Sophomore seasons, MN not so much.

He redshirted last year and I saw him play in the exhibition games. I'm not saying he's a bust, he just has a lot of work ahead of him yet.

I'm not panicking but Grove in the top 9 would be a problem. He should be the 3rd option at the 4 or 5. I look forward to him sticking around and contributing more as a sophomore, but relying on him this year would be like relying on Betts last year. Not his time yet.

Has Shinholster confirmed his commitment? A close source has advised he will be doing so.

I'll take your word for it

It is head scratching. I recently learned Norwood told Musselman and Flip Saunders no before hiring Pitino. If true, the Johnson hire is roughly equivalent.

Tim Cream

Coyle was a problem until he fired Ben Johnson and hired a coach that 99% are on board with. He'll be a problem again if Niko has major success and is stolen away somehow, or Niko is terrible and he let's him overstay his welcome. Hopefully neither and we're rejoicing over good basketball for...

I think he ran out of eligibility

Has Erik Reader announced he is staying yet? : )

He did deliver some nice above the rim plays

The legend of Taurus Samuels lives on

Never seen someone cross their arms more awkwardly, like what the hell is even that?

Ben is an elite recruiter of student managers. Didn't they have similar success last year?

Not gonna lie Spaulding called this day one

Better record than Ben Johnson

Grove is a mile away from being a productive player but like others said this is encouraging. Would be nice to keep a guy like Grove around to watch him develop and be a contributing part as an upper classman.

Are Pitino and Ben still close?

Pitino didn't have the coaching chops to harness the pure euro power of David Mutaf

So basically the antithesis of "embrace the suck"