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Honestly need this game: lose and any momentum you had with the fan base is gone and people will quit paying attention again fast

He’s a fine player but he needs more bench time if he’s not on. Not a great defender and makes some bad decisions

Didn’t look like it to me. Standing on offense didn’t make a shot for like 10 minutes: they should be up 7-10 points

That happens whether they win or lose. And he will STILL get calls tonight my guess. I don't think this Mich St. team is all that great. If ours boys can not turn the ball over and get back on defense, they will be OK. Also fine if there are more dribble drives, inside plays, etc. We shoot MUCH...

Have to recognize this Ben team is much different. I went and looked at BT defensive and rebound stats. They are top 1/3 in both categories. THIS is a reason to get excited. These are things you can build an identity on. Play defense and rebound. It will keep you in games even when you can't score.

Being in a spot where they are in the top 1/3 of the conference in back to back years fills the Barn all the way up to capacity. A sweet sixteen run mixed in there and they can ask whatever they like for tickets. We have flat out NOT WON here since Clem. 1-2 years of it and that place is...

Only losers would support this narrative. If he truly wants to come here after us not even giving him a sniff last time, you are stupid not to do it. If Ben makes the tourney, keep him, if not, let's get Musslemen in here and start to win big again.

They played better. Harder Id day. That said that wasn’t a very good Michigan state team. Iowa looked better to me if we are being honest

Doesn't matter where it comes from. They get it from the Midwest and it is not highly regarded. They are in roughly the same boat as us, but they have a WINNING CULTURE to fall back on and also a University that will support them at a college in an area that is alot of fun.

I'm with you, it can happen, I just don't THINK we will see better than bottom 1/3 until they win for a few years in a row. The University period is a tough sell, and it's even tougher when you don't have any winning to fall back on. Or any type of identity(as of yet)

Sorry, shouldn't have said that, I can take it down if you like. Yes they are still kids and those were some pretty harsh words. I didn't say they "are" that, just that they "played" like that. They are just not basketball smart obviously. And that is what I meant. What I am getting at is that...

100%. You flat out will never win at Minnesota without playing better defense, smarter guard play and even or above rebounding numbers as your opponents, Effort also can never waiver. We don't get talent here. You will always be at the bottom 1/3 of the conference talent-wise at this University...

Could be, but I will bet coaches like Izzo, Painter, etc wouldn't stand for it. If their guys won't run the show the way they want it run, good coaches will step in and change things, no matter what the level. Being very transparent with players when you do bench them and explaining why it needs...

Clem left. After that it went downhill and still hasn't recovered. No one goes to the barn. A few older folks. Team has never gained an identity even though it has had 4 different coaches since then. Top MN kids still won't come here. We generally get 1 good borderline all conference type...

Agree, but then as a baseball coach, what is your move? I am telling my guys to take more pitches, be selective, cut their swings down to 3/4 to make barrel contact if they have to, quit letting good 1st pitches go by, bunt, run, etc., Beating your head against a wall does nothing...

Isn't this common coaching sense? Or a guard who is an upper classman running the show? Shouldn't they both know better?

It just isn't smart guard play flat out. See Wisconsin guard play. Brains = wins at the guard position. Dumb = losses. You don't chuck 30 of them when they aren't falling. This is also coaching, the bench is always a good reminder to do what the coach asks of you.

Again, a physical limitation. I don't get mad at those. Sometimes, you are what you are when it comes to limitations such as those. What you can control is defense, rebounding, effort, smart play. Saw none of it last night.

Yes, sometime outside shots don't go in. Your JOB as a coach is to get them out of that and run some offense that gets the ball in. Or drives to the bucket. Letting them chuck 30 - 3 point baskets isn't on them Ben. It's on YOU. Take control of your team for christmas sake.

They had enough talent to win this game last night. That is what is hard to watch. It had nothing to do with talent and everything to do with effort and brains. Zero of either last night.