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Ive seen the last 25 years. I also know which coach has produced the worst results during the stretch. If we are going to emphasize that we have had a very poor 25 year run, it must take a special level of ineptitude to stand out as the low point if that quarter century.

One that is giving even money on whether the next gopher mens basketball coach posts a big ten record better than 29%?

If i could get even money that the next coach has a better B1G record than Johnson does, i would take that wager in an instant.

Im still not sure I follow the "exceeded expectations" argument as one that is favorable to the coach. Between our coach's first three years with the team, how we looked out of conference, and the roster the coach built, people's predictions as to how we would perform in the big ten were so low...

High fives and butt slaps!

After the way they fell flat on their face last year, it seems like the SEC shouldn't be taken seriously when they try to lobby for a format that gives them more favorable seeding.

+1 Similar to the drum I've been beating, even if it is a tough job, how is Seth getting around the fact that Ben is doing that job worse than anyone who has ever held it?

Yep. Even if we buy the argument that the U is a uniquely difficult place to succeed at in basketball (i dont buy that it is inherently more difficult than at neighboring Wisconsin), that doesn't change the fact that Ben is doing significantly worse than his two predecessors at this challenging...

I don't think the Nebraska comparison is quite on point. Nebraska had their glory years of national championships, followed by the Pelini years of good but not great (clearly second tier), and then alternating between mediocrity and legitimately bad. The Gophers have gone longer than I would...

If he pulled that off, id be in the camp to bring him back. Think that's the only way I wouldn't feel that firing is the only reasonable option

What his record actually is is bad enough. I don't see much value in holding close wins against him. If the trend were reversed, I also wouldn't give him credit for close losses. The team and the coach earned all of those wins.

Has he tried having Fleck read Everybody Poops to the team?

Last years dramatic Cinderella postseason run to the second round of the NIT. Actually, probably the Michigan win his first year. There was genuine excitement, but that may have been the high water mark.

Very true, but it would still be an upgrade. Tubby and Pitino were both fired for performance, so we should not lose sight of the fact that performance that matches or is worse than Tubby's six year tenure should be a fireable offense.

I am not a fan of using him taking a roster that was picked to finish last and bring somewhat competitive as an argument for keeping him. This is year four, so the roster is on him. Whether he assembles rosters picked to finish awful and then finishes just poorly, the result is the same as if he...

One on one with a goalie in a live game is different than having all the time in the world for some gimmicky approach (swinging really wide, slowing down, etc) in a shootout. Id like to see us better at shootouts so we could earn the points, but scoring on a penalty shot or shootout is a...

If Ben's high water mark was winning one NIT game, that only seemed like any kind of an accomplishment because of how historically bad his first two seasons were. When your best finish is worse than the season that got a coach fired in 2013, then things are not going well for the program.

Certainly tough to do so. That's why it behooves you to defend well enough to not let the opponent shoot 64%.

I was just about to ask if winning the national title is better than beating Michigan in Columbus.

Back to the never ending discussion of playing to win vs not to lose, playing to win is throwing it deep on 3rd and 11 to virtually end the game. Playing not to lose would have been running into the pile to make ND burn their last timeout before punting and giving them the ball with meaningful...