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Tubby probably was somewhat less bad than Pitino. But I'm not really sure what the hell Tubby had almost rolling.

I'm not saying it will end up being like 2003. I'm just saying it might.

Due to the sanctions, it's probably fair to rank Monson as the least bad if anything.

They hired Willie Taggart as head coach. The guy who inherited the #4 most talented team in the country at FSU (per 247 talent composite), and lost 6 games by 17+ points his first year, in addition to barely beating Samford. And then beat La Monroe by 1 point in OT his second year. Something...

People think that we had just one good game against Penn State. Don't think people don't know how we did in OOC play.

I seriously doubt it.

Anyway, as much as I'll get killed for saying this, I think it's possible that 2019 will end up being like 2003. Basically a double digit year that made us think we were on our way to accomplishing big things, but ended up being nothing more than a one year oasis in a desert of mediocrity and...

Yeah, you're probably right. If Fleck can keep success going, he's going to leave for a bigger program or the NFL. Then, we'll probably be back in 5-7 land. With that being said, I think this thread is more about the next 5 years or so.

IDK if we're really behind MSU right now. Dantonio is really on the downswing, and most of the MSU fanbase wanted him fired after this year. The rest I agree with you on.

Ryan Day is like Larry Coker, Frank Solich or Tubby Smith. (at Kentucky) They'll fall off a cliff under him sooner or later. Harbaugh has been a disappointment so far. I still wonder if he'll turn a corner there and make his team a national title contender sooner or later. I know he's been...

What do you mean by 9 wins? Do you mean 9 overall wins, or 9 conference wins? We may or may not get 9 overall wins. I'd say that's about 50/50. We definitely aren't getting 9 conference wins.

While all 3 have been awful, I honestly think Pitino is at the bottom of the list.

Monson, Smith and Pitino