2027 NFL Quarterback Draft Class

Why not a thread for what is expected to be an epic draft class for QB's.

I'd been following this story and I didn't think Sorsby had a chance of playing college football this coming season. I was pretty sure he was going to enter a Supplemental Draft for NFL teams in the coming weeks but I guess that is now going away.

Not sure if it's over yet or not but Sorsby is immensely talented

This one was a shocker, for sure. Everything I had heard in the weeks leading up to this was that it was pretty much a slam dunk that Sorsby would not be eligible to play college football this season. Good for him I guess.

Will NCAA appeal?

I continue to be inexplicably fascinated by this situation. It appears Sorsby is headed for the Supplemental Draft. A couple of house-cleaning thoughts.

- Could the NFL deny Sorsby for the Supplemental Draft? Yes, but very unlikely from a pure Labor perspective, the NFLPA would make this very hard for the NFL to deny

- A possible/likely suspension placed on Sorsby once he lands with an NFL team. I think this is way overblown, simply because I just don't think Sorsby was going to be starting early for any team he lands with, and honestly I figured he would sit out most of the season with whoever he ends up with. A 6-10 game suspension for example? He would have likely been sitting anyway.

Everything I've heard indicates the three most likely NFL teams to take a swing at Sorsby in the Supplemental Draft;

- Arizona Cardinals
- Pittsburgh Steelers
- Philly Eagles

The way the bidding works, the Cardinals would have to take quite a bit more of a gamble (pardon the pun) than teams like the Steelers and Eagles, simply because their pick(s) in the 2027 draft are almost certainly going to be a lot higher in each round than the Steelers and Eagles

Example: A 2nd round pick bid by the Cardinals would be incredibly risky. That 2027 pick is almost certainly going to be in the mid-30's at the worst, where those other two teams would be in the mid-50's more than likely, which is much less of a gamble

If the Cardinals bid a 3rd round pick in the Supplemental Draft, which is probably reasonable, a team like the Steelers or Eagles (or another team expected to pick late) could slide in front of them and bid a 2nd rounder, which for them could be like the 58th or 60th pick; not a MASSIVE risk for those teams really.

I'm hoping the Cardinals take a swing and try to land Sorsby but I could see the Steelers making a move as their QB room is a HUGE question mark after this season, and I could sure see Howie Roseman throwing a dart at a talent like Sorsby.

There will be a lot of teams who absolutely 100% don't have Sorsby on their board at all, a complete no-go.

Ogie Ogilthorpe said:

I continue to be inexplicably fascinated by this situation. It appears Sorsby is headed for the Supplemental Draft. A couple of house-cleaning thoughts.

- Could the NFL deny Sorsby for the Supplemental Draft? Yes, but very unlikely from a pure Labor perspective, the NFLPA would make this very hard for the NFL to deny

- A possible/likely suspension placed on Sorsby once he lands with an NFL team. I think this is way overblown, simply because I just don't think Sorsby was going to be starting early for any team he lands with, and honestly I figured he would sit out most of the season with whoever he ends up with. A 6-10 game suspension for example? He would have likely been sitting anyway.

Everything I've heard indicates the three most likely NFL teams to take a swing at Sorsby in the Supplemental Draft;

- Arizona Cardinals
- Pittsburgh Steelers
- Philly Eagles

The way the bidding works, the Cardinals would have to take quite a bit more of a gamble (pardon the pun) than teams like the Steelers and Eagles, simply because their pick(s) in the 2027 draft are almost certainly going to be a lot higher in each round than the Steelers and Eagles

Example: A 2nd round pick bid by the Cardinals would be incredibly risky. That 2027 pick is almost certainly going to be in the mid-30's at the worst, where those other two teams would be in the mid-50's more than likely, which is much less of a gamble

If the Cardinals bid a 3rd round pick in the Supplemental Draft, which is probably reasonable, a team like the Steelers or Eagles (or another team expected to pick late) could slide in front of them and bid a 2nd rounder, which for them could be like the 58th or 60th pick; not a MASSIVE risk for those teams really.

I'm hoping the Cardinals take a swing and try to land Sorsby but I could see the Steelers making a move as their QB room is a HUGE question mark after this season, and I could sure see Howie Roseman throwing a dart at a talent like Sorsby.

There will be a lot of teams who absolutely 100% don't have Sorsby on their board at all, a complete no-go.

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The thing I think is silly in their comps on him is they’re using this years class. He is costing you next year capital and he is not starter quality right now, so you comp him to next years class (it doesn’t matter where he compares to Mendoza or Simpson, but what the opportunity cost is for next years set of guys in what is a very deep projected class).

Someone will burn a 2nd on him is my guess. Even if he gets suspended for part of this year, really doesn’t matter as he’s not slotting as a starter. He struck me as “fine” against better competition watching him play which will end being worth it for someone to swing on him given it’s a qb starved league

What will be fascinating is how teams who need QBs but don’t value him as high. Are you going to put a 4th out knowing it’ll come out you bid and you have to answer questions on your current QBs and that you’re fine with someone who gambled on his own team and the sport he plays while playing it?

upnorthkid said:

The thing I think is silly in their comps on him is they’re using this years class. He is costing you next year capital and he is not starter quality right now, so you comp him to next years class (it doesn’t matter where he compares to Mendoza or Simpson, but what the opportunity cost is for next years set of guys in what is a very deep projected class).

Someone will burn a 2nd on him is my guess. Even if he gets suspended for part of this year, really doesn’t matter as he’s not slotting as a starter. He struck me as “fine” against better competition watching him play which will end being worth it for someone to swing on him given it’s a qb starved league

What will be fascinating is how teams who need QBs but don’t value him as high. Are you going to put a 4th out knowing it’ll come out you bid and you have to answer questions on your current QBs and that you’re fine with someone who gambled on his own team and the sport he plays while playing it?

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The gambling angle aside (and that's saying a lot), at the end of the day someone has a chance to pick up a player who is "likely" a 1st round talent (many say he would have been drafted ahead of Ty Simpson in April but who knows) for a 2nd or 3rd or even 4th round pick.

To me I guess, you'd be getting a talented player in your building for what would/could basically be a redshirt year; he's in your building for 9 months longer than a QB you could draft next April.

The Cardinals are just in a tough spot. I think they'll be better this season, but they have one of the most brutal schedules I've seen. They could be better than last season and still win 2-3 games. And that means whatever draft pick they bid in the Supplemental Draft could be a really valuable pick.

A week or more ago, I would have said he will be had for a Day 3 pick but now I don't think so. As a bit of a Cardinals fan, I would love to see them get him for a 3rd round pick, but their 2nd round pick is going to be awfully high I think. Still could be a good value at roughly #35 for a guy you really believe is 1st round talent.

I could be wrong but the 3 main players I see are who I mentioned; Cardinals, Steelers and the Eagles as a dark horse.

Ogie Ogilthorpe said:

The gambling angle aside (and that's saying a lot), at the end of the day someone has a chance to pick up a player who is "likely" a 1st round talent (many say he would have been drafted ahead of Ty Simpson in April but who knows) for a 2nd or 3rd or even 4th round pick.

To me I guess, you'd be getting a talented player in your building for what would/could basically be a redshirt year; he's in your building for 9 months longer than a QB you could draft next April.

The Cardinals are just in a tough spot. I think they'll be better this season, but they have one of the most brutal schedules I've seen. They could be better than last season and still win 2-3 games. And that means whatever draft pick they bid in the Supplemental Draft could be a really valuable pick.

A week or more ago, I would have said he will be had for a Day 3 pick but now I don't think so. As a bit of a Cardinals fan, I would love to see them get him for a 3rd round pick, but their 2nd round pick is going to be awfully high I think. Still could be a good value at roughly #35 for a guy you really believe is 1st round talent.

I could be wrong but the 3 main players I see are who I mentioned; Cardinals, Steelers and the Eagles as a dark horse.

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I guess that’s what I’m saying. If you spend a second or third, you have to look at where you’re slotted next year. Arizona should be picking high and in contention for multiple really good QBs.

I don’t see him as good (or hyped) as much as moore or manning for sure.

He’s way closer to I think what you’re going to get as an end product now (as opposed to say JJM who was drafted on what he could be). Feels like he’s thrown in the qb5 or so range next year so I guess if I’m AZ, I’m saying I like manning or Moore and can get him next year so I’m not going higher than my 3rd. The other 2 teams are expecting to be playoff teams so I think the flyer in the second makes more sense. I’m not super confident this kid is going to go over well leading a team and I think it also reeks of a PR nightmare.

Hurts has a no trade clause til 2029 so that’s in interesting one. Pittsburgh makes sense esp now that Tomlins gone and with old ass Rodgers back there

I think interviews with him and the teams would be fascinating watches

Wow. This situation just keeps twisting and turning and just when you think you know what's going to happen, it changes again. Everything I had heard was that the league would have a hard time denying Sorsby a shot at the Supplemental Draft, from a Labor perspective.

I guess we'll see what happens next. At this point I have no clue

If you read the NFL letter, it was not particularly kind to one Mr. Sorsby

Cites him possibly breaking the law, notes it does not have all the NCAA investigation (which Sorsby didn't provide) citing that he repeatedly violated known conduct policy, and that he did not demonstrate any accountability for his conduct.

Good on the NFL imo

upnorthkid said:

If you read the NFL letter, it was not particularly kind to one Mr. Sorsby

Cites him possibly breaking the law, notes it does not have all the NCAA investigation (which Sorsby didn't provide) citing that he repeatedly violated known conduct policy, and that he did not demonstrate any accountability for his conduct.

Good on the NFL imo

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As others have stated, he likely wouldn't be starting anyway, especially joining a team so late. So from the NFL's perspective, there isn't some big incentive to get him in the league ASAP, even if he is a big talent (not sure about that). It sets a pretty dangerous precedent to let him in and play with the gambling thing hanging over his head, considering how strict they've been on that with other players.

The only thing that maybe surprises me is if they do have a supplemental draft, that creates more news and would dominate the national discussion for a stretch of time. There's nothing the NFL likes more than putting out content to hog the airwaves with.

The more I hear and read about this, this really does not appear to be a good look by Goodell and the NFL. Their response largely appears to be bullshit, at least according to the information floating out there about how much prior discussion there already was between the Sorsby group and the league, that they did NOT in fact tell them they needed more information, et al.

Precedent is definitely not on the side of the NFL either. The CBA says absolutely nothing about gambling or the integrity of the game or criminal records or anything like that. It merely says, were you eligible for the draft in April? No. Are you eligible for the Supplemental Draft now? Yes.

The other precedent is that the NFL has never NOT had a Supplemental Draft when there was someone eligible like this.

Goodell wanted this to go away, I guess he thinks this was the best way to accomplish that.

It just seems like a whole lot of hubbub for a guy who for the most part was making $3 and $5 and $10 bets on UFC and NASCAR. Yes, there were the Indiana bets when he wasn't even on the travel squad, much less playing in the games.

I kinda think the NFL is in the wrong here, but it's probably in Sorsby's best interest to just suck it up and prepare for 2027 as best he can. It has to be a tough pill to swallow for Sorsby considering he would have been infinitely better off if he had just beaten his GF or wife repeatedly.

Ogie Ogilthorpe said:

The more I hear and read about this, this really does not appear to be a good look by Goodell and the NFL. Their response largely appears to be bullshit, at least according to the information floating out there about how much prior discussion there already was between the Sorsby group and the league, that they did NOT in fact tell them they needed more information, et al.

Precedent is definitely not on the side of the NFL either. The CBA says absolutely nothing about gambling or the integrity of the game or criminal records or anything like that. It merely says, were you eligible for the draft in April? No. Are you eligible for the Supplemental Draft now? Yes.

The other precedent is that the NFL has never NOT had a Supplemental Draft when there was someone eligible like this.

Goodell wanted this to go away, I guess he thinks this was the best way to accomplish that.

It just seems like a whole lot of hubbub for a guy who for the most part was making $3 and $5 and $10 bets on UFC and NASCAR. Yes, there were the Indiana bets when he wasn't even on the travel squad, much less playing in the games.

I kinda think the NFL is in the wrong here, but it's probably in Sorsby's best interest to just suck it up and prepare for 2027 as best he can. It has to be a tough pill to swallow for Sorsby considering he would have been infinitely better off if he had just beaten his GF or wife repeatedly.

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Why would sorsby not have been eligible for the nfl draft prior in april? He chose not to declare, then chose to fight to stay eligible, and had an injunction filed to play with a 2 game suspension. Then TTU said he wouldn't play so he chose to drop the lawsuit. This is all included in his filing that his NCAA eligibility still exists and was under investigation, which the NFL notes he didn't say that he had formally had his eligibility eliminated (because he was under an injunction to play and his was worried he would lose or that TTU would just sit him due to repercussions; that's not the same thing).

The same as no one made him gamble at all. no one made him bet on his own team. no one made his family members or friends set up accounts for him to gamble on. no one made him say he had an addiction.

the nfl cited all of those things, noting the integrity of the game. He was in treatment 2 months ago and has shown no evidence he's going to stay away from gambling (which he knew was a clear violation of the rules of the league he played in and he openly admitted to) and why he would not do that in the NFL.

They do have precedent for this. They did this to Terelle Pryor and said we'll suspend him for the term he'd be suspended for by the NCAA. Missing the year would be the same thing he'd be subjected to for gambling on another team in the NFL. They have precedent from the Clarett case where Clarett was subject to the CBA without being in the union yet.

I don't see why anyone feels bad for this kid. If he has an addiction, he has, supposedly, 5 million dollars and free year to get his shit together (you don't cure an addiction with 4 weeks and throwing yourself back into a hyper demanding, hyper competitive environment with unlimited access to money and people who will cover for you). If he lied and called addiction to try avoid the punishment, well then tough shit. The NFL doesn't owe him anything and knows if the feeling of the integrity of the game is gone, the game means nothing. It's why they really don't give a shit about DV or players mental health other than to try virtue signal, but this affects their bottom line if it disengages fans. Kid has no one to blame but himself