Drake incident poll. What's your opinion?

What's your take on DL incident?

  • 1. Nothingburger

    Votes: 47 22.3%

  • 2. Not much to see here. Drake made a small mistake and will be handled internally.

    Votes: 137 64.9%

  • 3. Goes against PJ'S culture. PJ should suspend him for at least 1/2 game.

    Votes: 23 10.9%

  • 4. Publicly tar and feather him

    Votes: 4 1.9%
  • Total voters
    211
  • Poll closed .
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Of all the potential character issues this is the least concerning one possible. Sure, if it was part of a larger pattern of behavior, conduct, attitude then we can talk.
 

He’ll get benched a series against Eastern Illinois. Not a high stakes mistake, but definitely goes against the culture PJ his instituted from day 1.
 

I was going to vote Nothingburger, but option 2 is the better choice. Not a literally nothing, but not anything worth writing home about.

Agreed that he will be "benched" for one game, the game that doesn't matter at all if he plays. You could say that he's missing opportunity to get reps in with his receivers ... but the competition will be at such a lower level I don't know if those reps are realistic.

Fleck will pound his chest about the benching, saying it shows he takes a hard stance on "violations" of his "culture" and all that performative BS. I'll roll my eyes and move on
 

60's Guy said:
Again, the question was the NFL doesn't punish misdemeanors...they do. Having a beer could be a one time thing...putting enough thought into it to have a fake ID does not indicate a one time momentary lapse of judgement.
All I'm arguing is ... it is not nothing.
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If that last sentence were true nobody would be arguing with you about your take on this. You are trying to make this into something way bigger than it is. Hell you are floating the idea that he would be suspended for 3 games for a similar violation in the NFL which is just laughable. (the examples you provided are related to domestic violence allegations....very very different then what Drake did....not even in the same ballpark).

Getting busted with a fake ID and underage drinking are slap on the wrist kind of stuff as long as you aren't driving and didn't hurt anyone or destroy property.

It definitely isn't nothing, it is a bad look for Drake and there will be discipline of some kind involved.....but it also isn't much above nothing and isn't anything that would come even close to a multi game suspension in the NFL.
 

If he had stayed in, this happens every weekend, especially for A 20 YEAR OLD COLLEGE STUDENT. Does it look bad? Its not the worst thing to happen, I mean he got arrested. But there was no endangerment, PJ will likely deal with it internally, and we'll move on. At least people like myself will
 


MNVCGUY said:
If that last sentence were true nobody would be arguing with you about your take on this. You are trying to make this into something way bigger than it is. Hell you are floating the idea that he would be suspended for 3 games for a similar violation in the NFL which is just laughable. (the examples you provided are related to domestic violence allegations....very very different then what Drake did....not even in the same ballpark).

Getting busted with a fake ID and underage drinking are slap on the wrist kind of stuff as long as you aren't driving and didn't hurt anyone or destroy property.

It definitely isn't nothing, it is a bad look for Drake and there will be discipline of some kind involved.....but it also isn't much above nothing and isn't anything that would come even close to a multi game suspension in the NFL.
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Not much above nothing? from ai

Using a fake ID to purchase alcohol underage typically results in misdemeanor charges, fines (often up to $1,000), 90 days in jail, and driver’s license suspension (around 90 days), with penalties varying by state. First-time offenders might qualify for diversion programs, but subsequent offenses can lead to harsher consequences, including gross misdemeanor or felony charges for manufacturing fake IDs. [1, 2, 3]
Common Penalties for Using a Fake ID
  • Criminal Charges: Misdemeanor offenses, such as misrepresentation of age or possession of false identification, are standard, notes Gusty Sunseri & Associates.
  • Driver’s License Suspension: Many states, including Minnesota and Missouri, enforce suspensions ranging from 90 days to one year under "Abuse and Lose" laws.
  • Fines and Fees: Fines can range from $100 to over $1,000, plus court costs.
  • Jail Time: While less common for first-time offenders, possession or use of a fake ID can carry potential jail time of up to 90 days to one year for gross misdemeanors.
  • Confiscation: Law enforcement or bar staff will likely confiscate the ID, say lawyers on JustAnswer and in Hennepin County. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7]
Additional Consequences
  • Academic Penalties: Students may face, in addition to legal trouble, university disciplinary action, explain users on Reddit.
  • Criminal Record: A conviction may leave a permanent mark, affecting future employment opportunities, says Nichols Law Firm.
 

Dave H said:
So then by your "values" as long as he pays his fine and takes his punishment all is good then right? What makes you think he wont do that?

Oh you just want to look superior online and pretend your transgressions are less impactful than his. They aren't.

I guarantee your outrage over this is way more than anyone on the team or associated with the team.
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Whoa take it easy there pilgrim! Pull in your reins!

Why all the vitrol towards me? I merely posted my thoughts regarding Drakes actions. Outrage? Nada. I have none of that but just an opinion and a statement about my values.You appeared to be rather thin skinned.

Last time I checked this is an opinion board. I have stated mine. And you and others choose to attack me?

That's OK. I can handle it.
 

60's Guy said:
Not much above nothing? from ai

Using a fake ID to purchase alcohol underage typically results in misdemeanor charges, fines (often up to $1,000), 90 days in jail, and driver’s license suspension (around 90 days), with penalties varying by state. First-time offenders might qualify for diversion programs, but subsequent offenses can lead to harsher consequences, including gross misdemeanor or felony charges for manufacturing fake IDs. [1, 2, 3]
Common Penalties for Using a Fake ID
  • Criminal Charges: Misdemeanor offenses, such as misrepresentation of age or possession of false identification, are standard, notes Gusty Sunseri & Associates.
  • Driver’s License Suspension: Many states, including Minnesota and Missouri, enforce suspensions ranging from 90 days to one year under "Abuse and Lose" laws.
  • Fines and Fees: Fines can range from $100 to over $1,000, plus court costs.
  • Jail Time: While less common for first-time offenders, possession or use of a fake ID can carry potential jail time of up to 90 days to one year for gross misdemeanors.
  • Confiscation: Law enforcement or bar staff will likely confiscate the ID, say lawyers on JustAnswer and in Hennepin County. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7]
Additional Consequences
  • Academic Penalties: Students may face, in addition to legal trouble, university disciplinary action, explain users on Reddit.
  • Criminal Record: A conviction may leave a permanent mark, affecting future employment opportunities, says Nichols Law Firm.
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So in your opinion what should happen to Drake? Toss him in jail and throw away the key.....multi game suspension.....you really want to make this into something massive so what should happen to him?

His family has money so they will get him a good lawyer....and as long as this was in fact a first offense and there aren't other more serious details that have not been reported he will get a minimum punishment, probably like a small fine and maybe the diversion program option. Not a lawyer but I will be shocked if he gets anything significant out of this based on the details that have been released.

Team will handle discipline internally and maybe he sits for a little bit of the first game. He screwed up, there will be consequences, but in the grand scheme of things this is a very minor offense and not something that needs to be blown up into something major.
 

60's Guy said:
Not much above nothing? from ai

Using a fake ID to purchase alcohol underage typically results in misdemeanor charges, fines (often up to $1,000), 90 days in jail, and driver’s license suspension (around 90 days), with penalties varying by state. First-time offenders might qualify for diversion programs, but subsequent offenses can lead to harsher consequences, including gross misdemeanor or felony charges for manufacturing fake IDs. [1, 2, 3]
Common Penalties for Using a Fake ID
  • Criminal Charges: Misdemeanor offenses, such as misrepresentation of age or possession of false identification, are standard, notes Gusty Sunseri & Associates.
  • Driver’s License Suspension: Many states, including Minnesota and Missouri, enforce suspensions ranging from 90 days to one year under "Abuse and Lose" laws.
  • Fines and Fees: Fines can range from $100 to over $1,000, plus court costs.
  • Jail Time: While less common for first-time offenders, possession or use of a fake ID can carry potential jail time of up to 90 days to one year for gross misdemeanors.
  • Confiscation: Law enforcement or bar staff will likely confiscate the ID, say lawyers on JustAnswer and in Hennepin County. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7]
Additional Consequences
  • Academic Penalties: Students may face, in addition to legal trouble, university disciplinary action, explain users on Reddit.
  • Criminal Record: A conviction may leave a permanent mark, affecting future employment opportunities, says Nichols Law Firm.
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I'd be interested in how much of a small town's water and electricity a data center used to gather this info compared to what it would've taken to do a simple Google search and cut/paste job
 



60's Guy said:
Okay, it has been a handful of years since I coached...but nobody was more conservative than school administrators. It only takes a couple people bypassing the AD going to the principal and it is you gotta be kidding me for expected consequences that administration wants enacted.

I dunno... as far as PJ if it was 75th guy on roster...is he made an example of to warn everybody else? At some point it is why have rules...so what fans think has no bearing...it is what administration thinks...if he was in the NFL is he looking at a 3 game suspension?
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I'm not sure we would even know about it if it were the 75th guy on the roster.
 

I not only could not care less about a 20 year old drinking alcohol a few weeks prior to his 21st birthday, carrying a fake ID, but the only reason I care at all is to react to those that do care.
 

60's Guy said:
Okay, it has been a handful of years since I coached...but nobody was more conservative than school administrators. It only takes a couple people bypassing the AD going to the principal and it is you gotta be kidding me for expected consequences that administration wants enacted.
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No disrespect meant, but I don't think you can apply your experience from high school coaching so many years in the past to dealing with professional athletes on a college team in 2026.
 

MNVCGUY said:
He got arrested so it is an issue.....it just isn't the massive one a couple of posters are trying to make it out to be.
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I can agree with that. Kids are kids whether they are athletes or not. I can tell you my 20 year old brain was a much bigger idiot then it is now at 40.
 



60's Guy said:
Again, the question was the NFL doesn't punish misdemeanors...they do. Having a beer could be a one time thing...putting enough thought into it to have a fake ID does not indicate a one time momentary lapse of judgement.
All I'm arguing is ... it is not nothing.
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Do you have any idea how many college kids have fakes now? How easy it is get one, and how they're almost indistinguishable from the real thing, especially since information on a license is stored in a bar code? My friend's son was able to get into Sally's as a freshman with a fake - no questions asked. And I know parents who let their kids order beers at dinner with a fake.

This isn't back in the day when you had to either get a confiscated id that kind of looked like you, or shave the raised numbers off an old style license with a razor.

The drinking age in this country is absurdly low by international standards. This isn't a "lapse of reason" - it's a normal behavior. I suspect he only got busted because someone knew who he was and ratted him out, or he was dumb enough to have a fake with a false name/address. (most kids use their real name and address these days.)
 

Bayfield Gopher said:
Whoa take it easy there pilgrim! Pull in your reins!

Why all the vitrol towards me? I merely posted my thoughts regarding Drakes actions. Outrage? Nada. I have none of that but just an opinion and a statement about my values.You appeared to be rather thin skinned.

Last time I checked this is an opinion board. I have stated mine. And you and others choose to attack me?

That's OK. I can handle it.
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You live in a state where from age zero to 17 and 364 days, you can drink in a bar with your parents.
 



I'm absolutely shocked the Gophers were able to pick up commitments with this black cloud hanging over the program
 

disco said:
Do you have any idea how many college kids have fakes now? How easy it is get one, and how they're almost indistinguishable from the real thing, especially since information on a license is stored in a bar code? My friend's son was able to get into Sally's as a freshman with a fake - no questions asked. And I know parents who let their kids order beers at dinner with a fake.

This isn't back in the day when you had to either get a confiscated id that kind of looked like you, or shave the raised numbers off an old style license with a razor.

The drinking age in this country is absurdly low by international standards. This isn't a "lapse of reason" - it's a normal behavior. I suspect he only got busted because someone knew who he was and ratted him out, or he was dumb enough to have a fake with a false name/address. (most kids use their real name and address these days.)
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Do you realize there is a big difference between an anonymous student and an NIL college QB who is the poster boy for his team?
 

GopherTheJugular said:
No disrespect meant, but I don't think you can apply your experience from high school coaching so many years in the past to dealing with professional athletes on a college team in 2026.
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I'm certainly not on the pulse of the U of M administration...but some of the same people who made a politically correct basketball hire probably still feel like there should rules and consequences for breaking the rules. IDK
 

GophersInIowa said:
I'm not sure we would even know about it if it were the 75th guy on the roster.
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Somebody would find out and try to win an investigative journalism award...but would the guy still be on the team?
 

MNVCGUY said:
So in your opinion what should happen to Drake? Toss him in jail and throw away the key.....multi game suspension.....you really want to make this into something massive so what should happen to him?

His family has money so they will get him a good lawyer....and as long as this was in fact a first offense and there aren't other more serious details that have not been reported he will get a minimum punishment, probably like a small fine and maybe the diversion program option. Not a lawyer but I will be shocked if he gets anything significant out of this based on the details that have been released.

Team will handle discipline internally and maybe he sits for a little bit of the first game. He screwed up, there will be consequences, but in the grand scheme of things this is a very minor offense and not something that needs to be blown up into something major.
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I have far too little information to know what I would do. PJ has rules...I'm guessing his rules have consequences? PJ has a leadership council. PJ has an administration he needs to communicate with. PJ needs to sit down and talk to Drake and hear where he's at. Lots of questions before you can make a determination.
I did not like having rules. Don't embarrass the team...be on time. Mess up we'll deal with it individually. I don't like suspensions...they punish the team.
I would lean toward public service/community service...spend a week admitting offenders into the drunk tank...either something that may change his path or help other people...I don't know Drake to know what's best....what might impact his life the most. but it would be about him...not something that punishes the team by his absence.
 

60's Guy said:
Somebody would find out and try to win an investigative journalism award...but would the guy still be on the team?
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Probably. I think this stuff happens a lot more than we hear about. Unless the player had other previous issues, it’s a “learn from it and move on” type of situation.
 

60's Guy said:
I'm certainly not on the pulse of the U of M administration...but some of the same people who made a politically correct basketball hire probably still feel like there should rules and consequences for breaking the rules. IDK
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And the inability or unwillingness to cover things up is probably a big reason the revenue sports at the U haven't won squat in decades.
 

60's Guy said:
I have far too little information to know what I would do. PJ has rules...I'm guessing his rules have consequences? PJ has a leadership council. PJ has an administration he needs to communicate with. PJ needs to sit down and talk to Drake and hear where he's at. Lots of questions before you can make a determination.
I did not like having rules. Don't embarrass the team...be on time. Mess up we'll deal with it individually. I don't like suspensions...they punish the team.
I would lean toward public service/community service...spend a week admitting offenders into the drunk tank...either something that may change his path or help other people...I don't know Drake to know what's best....what might impact his life the most. but it would be about him...not something that punishes the team by his absence.
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See....now had you just started with this take a big chunk of this thread could have been avoided :)
 

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