Yep, they spent a ton last couple of years, at least that was the rumor. Didn't seem to help them.Notoriously the Indiana basketball team has ALWAYS had some of the most money to spend in all college basketball
Yep, they spent a ton last couple of years, at least that was the rumor. Didn't seem to help them.Notoriously the Indiana basketball team has ALWAYS had some of the most money to spend in all college basketball
I think we are of similar thought... I don't think Iowa will replace Stirtz with another 1st round draft choice but I think they'll get a good coachable point guard. And I think that will get to them to a similar place as a team. They have 3 young perimeter shooters who shoot 40% from 3 and know the system. In other words, I think Iowa's scoring gets spread out. At minimum, they probably find a solid point guard who scores 10 versus 20. The Gophers have one 40% perimeter shooter. Pretty big advantage Iowa.Will they? It absolutely depends on who they get to take the place of Bennett Stirtz.
I think you underestimate how much they will miss Bennett Stirtz. He was a first-team all-Big Ten player and a likely first round NBA pick. With Bennett Stirtz Iowa in 2026 was a very good version of the 2025 Drake Bulldogs. Without Bennett Stirtz, they will be a very, very mediocre or worse 2025 Drake Bulldogs if they don't replace him properly. Most of Iowa's returners are mid-major type guys. You have to remember Iowa was a come-from-behind win over Maryland in the Big Ten Tournament away from probably having a play-in game in Dayton in the NCAA Tourney. They were 3-7 in their last 10 games going into the tourney with a couple of bad losses. Not really a team overflowing with talented players. Good, well-coached team with a superstar PG, but not brimming with talent elsewhere.
Obviously, they are well-coached, but as you mentioned with Minnesota, Iowa will also need a big-time guy or two to be better in 2027 than they were in 2026.
They can pay someone to take Stirtz's spot because he was not cheap last year, but will that player really fill the void he leaves? It'll be tough.
I think it will be be harder for Iowa to fill the void left by Stirtz than the gap Tyson is leaving to fill at Minnesota. And, as you mentioned, Minnesota is starting a little further behind the starting line.
Dennis got some fine Louisville $$$ and Koo-Aid got a taste.I don't remember the whole story, but I think he had played some AAU ball with someone who ended up committing to Louisville and he wanted to go play with him. He was already signed with us so we let him out of his NLI.Let's not forget good ol' Kool aid
What's the reason he didn't sign with us?
You seem hyper focused on Iowa. Niko got 8 B1G wins out of a roster that had 87 games missed by its top 8 players. I'm perfectly happy to let him build his year 2 team with 4 solid returning players and hopefully much better injury luck. Will Iowa still be better than us? Maybe. I don't really care.I think we are of similar thought... I don't think Iowa will replace Stirtz with another 1st round draft choice but I think they'll get a good coachable point guard. And I think that will get to them to a similar place as a team. They have 3 young perimeter shooters who shoot 40% from 3 and know the system. In other words, I think Iowa's scoring gets spread out. At minimum, they probably find a solid point guard who scores 10 versus 20. The Gophers have one 40% perimeter shooter. Pretty big advantage Iowa.
Iowa has 7 returning system players and 5 of those guys played 37 games together ... the Gophers have 4 returning. Advantage by a lot Iowa. (Banks looking for a Juco waiver would make 8)
Iowa needs to replace Stirtz's 20 and Folgueiras's 8...we have Tyson's 20 and Reynolds 12. advantage Iowa.
I like Niko but McCollum is a far more accomplished coach. He wins. Niko is good but hasn't won to anywhere near the same level. Niko has had more opportunity, Niko is 7 years older.
Big advantage Iowa.
Like you say, Iowa needs to replace two/three quality guys. Minnesota needs 5 to 7 quality guys to get to the same starting line as a team.
Iowa has two freshman recruits similarly rated to the top two Gopher recruits...we added a third unranked recruit in Tomes, so 3 recruits scores higher than 2 but... I'd say it's a push.
McCollum is like Coca Cola dividends...they haven't missed paying off in a long time. McCollum has been to NCAA post season play for 13 straight years. The last 10 years in any one season...the most games he lost in a single season was 6 and then at Iowa they lost 13 games this past year. You think he ain't obsessed with improving that and getting back to his "normal". He lost 4 at Drake.
I'm positive he learned things to improve in the Big Ten this coming season. They'll be better.
History says they won't lose 10 games again. Very confident he's obsessed with improving on the first year at Iowa.
And I'm not saying Minnesota can't finish ahead of Iowa...Niko is good....we certainly could be a darkhorse that streaks to the finish line. On Draft Kings Iowa is given about the 25th best chance to win the NCAA Tournament next year of about 40-50 teams. Minnesota is not on the list.
I believe Iowa is talking about winning the NCAA Tournament next season in workouts and conversations among players...I doubt Minnesota is. I think the mindsets are different.
They have 3 young perimeter shooters who shoot 40% from 3 and know the system. The Gophers have one 40% perimeter shooter. Pretty big advantage Iowa.
Like you say, Iowa needs to replace two/three quality guys. Minnesota needs 5 to 7 quality guys to get to the same starting line as a team.
I believe Iowa is talking about winning the NCAA Tournament next season in workouts and conversations among players...I doubt Minnesota is. I think the mindsets are different.
I said they have returners who are mid-major talents made better by the precense of a guy they will not have next year. Certainly the returning Iowa players will improve with the good coaching they will get, but without Stirtz, we'll see how good they are next year. I said Iowa will have a harder time closing the gap that Stirtz leaves than what Minnesota will have in filling the void Tyson leaves.
More like a sip lolDennis got some fine Louisville $$$ and Koo-Aid got a taste.
Lol what? Stirtz was a spectacular floor general, who's a fringe lottery pick. He made their entire offense tick, and literally couldn't rest because it all fell apart when he did.Iowa needs to replace Stirtz's 20 and Folgueiras's 8...we have Tyson's 20 and Reynolds 12. advantage Iowa.
Top 4 consistently is tough these days. Was easier in a 10 team league but top 4 of 18 is tough. Heck, Purdue was 7th this season.After the last 25 years, I'd just like to see us finish Top 4 in the conference somewhat consistently.
It's an important time on the calendar and for a team that needs 6 or 7 new guys....what we waiting for? All the higher rated guys to choose somebody else to play for?
A lotta teams had at least their top guy lined up at least a month ago. Iowa State wins...they probably got less money than we do...they got 5,6 guys signed. Xavier has 3 very good players signed. Two examples doing it differently. That's all...just don't agree with our approach.
Iowa will be worse; regardless MN beat them head to head last year. They don’t have Michigan NIL. Acting like Minnesota can’t compete with Iowa basketball NIL is head scratching to say the least.
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McCollum has coached two seasons in D-1. One at midmajor Drake and a 10th place league finish at Iowa. Everything else is D-2.I think we are of similar thought... I don't think Iowa will replace Stirtz with another 1st round draft choice but I think they'll get a good coachable point guard. And I think that will get to them to a similar place as a team. They have 3 young perimeter shooters who shoot 40% from 3 and know the system. In other words, I think Iowa's scoring gets spread out. At minimum, they probably find a solid point guard who scores 10 versus 20. The Gophers have one 40% perimeter shooter. Pretty big advantage Iowa.
Iowa has 7 returning system players and 5 of those guys played 37 games together ... the Gophers have 4 returning. Advantage by a lot Iowa. (Banks looking for a Juco waiver would make 8)
Iowa needs to replace Stirtz's 20 and Folgueiras's 8...we have Tyson's 20 and Reynolds 12. advantage Iowa.
I like Niko but McCollum is a far more accomplished coach. He wins. Niko is good but hasn't won to anywhere near the same level. Niko has had more opportunity, Niko is 7 years older.
Big advantage Iowa.
Like you say, Iowa needs to replace two/three quality guys. Minnesota needs 5 to 7 quality guys to get to the same starting line as a team.
Iowa has two freshman recruits similarly rated to the top two Gopher recruits...we added a third unranked recruit in Tomes, so 3 recruits scores higher than 2 but... I'd say it's a push.
McCollum is like Coca Cola dividends...they haven't missed paying off in a long time. McCollum has been to NCAA post season play for 13 straight years. The last 10 years in any one season...the most games he lost in a single season was 6 and then at Iowa they lost 13 games this past year. You think he ain't obsessed with improving that and getting back to his "normal". He lost 4 at Drake.
I'm positive he learned things to improve in the Big Ten this coming season. They'll be better.
History says they won't lose 10 games again. Very confident he's obsessed with improving on the first year at Iowa.
And I'm not saying Minnesota can't finish ahead of Iowa...Niko is good....we certainly could be a darkhorse that streaks to the finish line. On Draft Kings Iowa is given about the 25th best chance to win the NCAA Tournament next year of about 40-50 teams. Minnesota is not on the list.
I believe Iowa is talking about winning the NCAA Tournament next season in workouts and conversations among players...I doubt Minnesota is. I think the mindsets are different.
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McCollum has coached two seasons in D-1. One at midmajor Drake and a 10th place league finish at Iowa. Everything else is D-2.
He’s a really good coach, but the league is full of really good coaches.
Not to derail this thread, but on the iowa thing. They have had a good program, could they make it back to the elite, sure but its unlikely. One thing that helps McCollum (and Niko), their style leads to fewer possessions and slower games. Those are easier for a lesser talent team to win. That leads to tournament runs here and there. It also means you have less room for error vs bad teams. Look no further than the gophers this year. Beat iowa mich st, lose to psu and Rutgers. Its obvious McCollum is a good coach, but when you lose your 4 year starter Pg who's going to be a 1st round pick, that can hinder your team. They aren't going to be a 17th place team, but they also will likely have less room for error and thus not lossesYes, it is full of them. Obviously, McCollum has a very impressive coaching record of success but there's nothing that says he couldn't end up like another good Iowa coach: Tom Davis. Tom Davis spent 13 years at Iowa. In his first year there, Iowa won 30 games and advanced to the final 8 in the NCAA tournament. His Iowa teams never did that well again.
I guess CBB Money Ball is to build a team of wings. Niko kind of does that already.View attachment 43679
If these are the prices for the top 25 guys...I doubt it drops to $1M for anybody top 100.
So, top 100 to 200 might be $1M? Or are they still $2M. $7M doesn't go far with 15 guys.
This is why I am thrilled he was able to grab Mpoyi. No guarantee but he is certainly a high potential prospect.View attachment 43679
If these are the prices for the top 25 guys...I doubt it drops to $1M for anybody top 100.
So, top 100 to 200 might be $1M? Or are they still $2M. $7M doesn't go far with 15 guys.
Mpoyi is the gigantic Gopher X factor. I agree with the high potential label. And ya, I think those numbers are pretty representative of what's going on...so $10M seems pretty close to the floor budget wise...but I think that's probably the requirement now and it seems we probably don't have it.This is why I am thrilled he was able to grab Mpoyi. No guarantee but he is certainly a high potential prospect.
We are going to have to get our NIL pot up to 10 million or more to compete for a highly competitive roster in the years to come.
A huge help would be for Niko to put together an under the radar roster that fits his system to a tee- then he goes out and makes the tournament. The town would support that and I think we would have a shot to compete at higher and higher levels going forward. Big year coming and it is really important to grow the momentum.Mpoyi is the gigantic Gopher X factor. I agree with the high potential label. And ya, I think those numbers are pretty representative of what's going on...so $10M seems pretty close to the floor budget wise...but I think that's probably the requirement now and it seems we probably don't have it.
Where is Xavier getting all of that cash from? Is Rick Sr pitching a few million in?View attachment 43683
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I'd assume not being FBS in football helps, not sure how that impacts revenue sharingWhere is Xavier getting all of that cash from? Is Rick Sr pitching a few million in?
7 strong starter/rotation guys and 3 Freshmen. Hopefully we can avoid the injury bug till February to give the Freshman time to get acclimated.A huge help would be for Niko to put together an under the radar roster that fits his system to a tee- then he goes out and makes the tournament. The town would support that and I think we would have a shot to compete at higher and higher levels going forward. Big year coming and it is really important to grow the momentum.
If we can get really good results out of the incoming frosh and get the right fits from the portal, it can happen without star power.
Mark Cuban contributed millions to the Indiana NIL bucket showing that billionaires can buy championships. How much isn't disclosed but he gave $6 million to the Indiana Rugby Club....my guess is basketball is getting some $$ too.(Bear with my football comments before getting to the funding) Actually, I don't think Indiana did us any favors, because I don't know if most alumni who have the money take the time to really look at the details of what it took for Indiana football to pull off what it did. If you just look at their high school football recruiting over the last several years, they are still behind Minn. However, their talent evaluation and commitment to the portal has been amazing. But do must alumni get all that? I say this because what the football team's efforts seem to have done is raise the boat for all at IU, as all of a sudden it seems like their basketball teams have money to spend.
Looking at the alumni numbers, we have 641,000 living U of M alumni, with 62% of those alumni living in Minnesota. In fiscal year 2024, alumni gave more than $218 million to the University, representing 40% of all donors and 56% of all giving. So, there's money, but evidently not much for the sports programs. It just seems like one of the programs needs to pull something spectacular off to pull the Alumni base out of its apathy for the sports programs. (There's a reason we have 2 new hockey coaches in a sport we should always be highly competitive in) Unfortunately, this money problem is kind of like a chicken or the egg issue. For a reference, Iowa State has 233,000 living alumni and seems to get stuff done with 1/3 of our numbers.