Rothstein: Oregon, Washington, UCLA, and USC --- are a combined 6-19 in Big Ten games outside PST; none will ever win a regular season BT title

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Ski U Mah Gopher said:
The last ESPN mock draft has 4 Bruins in the 1st round. I think they could win half asleep.
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True, but Washington, Oregon and USC (Without best player) are all better than their Men's counterparts.

East coast to West coast is a taller task than West to East IMO. Playing a game at 9am local is easier than 10pm local.
 



I count them as 6-17.

UCLA 1-5
Oregon 1-4
USC 3-4
Washington 1-4

Oregon and Washington makes sense with their overall records. USC as well. The only potential outlier is UCLA. Their 5 losses came at Iowa, Wisconsin, Ohio St, Michigan, and Michigan St. At best I would expect them to go 2-3 in those 5 games. Not really that far from what's to be expected.
 

GophersInIowa said:
I count them as 6-17.

UCLA 1-5
Oregon 1-4
USC 3-4
Washington 1-4

Oregon and Washington makes sense with their overall records. USC as well. The only potential outlier is UCLA. Their 5 losses came at Iowa, Wisconsin, Ohio St, Michigan, and Michigan St. At best I would expect them to go 2-3 in those 5 games. Not really that far from what's to be expected.
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I watched the UCLA vs. the 2 Michigan teams and they look they've totally quit on Cronin.
 

GophersInIowa said:
I count them as 6-17.

UCLA 1-5
Oregon 1-4
USC 3-4
Washington 1-4

Oregon and Washington makes sense with their overall records. USC as well. The only potential outlier is UCLA. Their 5 losses came at Iowa, Wisconsin, Ohio St, Michigan, and Michigan St. At best I would expect them to go 2-3 in those 5 games. Not really that far from what's to be expected.
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To look at this further, USC is 3-3 at home. Oregon is 1-7. Washington is 3-5. UCLA is 6-1. Once again, UCLA is clearly the only outlier here. The other 3, those road records outside of the Pacific time zone is about where you'd expect them to be regardless of time zone.

This is a nothing burger.
 

UCLA finished 5th last year and was 1 game out of 2nd place.

The 4 West Coast teams are all struggling this year (at home and on the road).....but that doesn't mean none of them will ever win the conference.....
 




cheeseheadgophfan said:
I watched the UCLA vs. the 2 Michigan teams and they look they've totally quit on Cronin.
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I’ve never thought Cronin was a great fit out there but maybe it’s just because his teams at Cincinnati always played tough physical basketball. I just picture UCLA being more up tempo flashy ball for some reason.
 

bmb5270 said:
I’ve never thought Cronin was a great fit out there but maybe it’s just because his teams at Cincinnati always played tough physical basketball. I just picture UCLA being more up tempo flashy ball for some reason.
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He did make a final 4 and lost to Gonzaga at the buzzer
 




bmb5270 said:
I’ve never thought Cronin was a great fit out there but maybe it’s just because his teams at Cincinnati always played tough physical basketball. I just picture UCLA being more up tempo flashy ball for some reason.
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Agreed, I found it an odd fit the minute he was hired. The problem with Cronin (and plenty of other college basketball coaches these days) is he doesn't adapt to his player personnel. If his players are struggling with his style of play during the season, he seems to be too stubborn to change anything. Then comes the inevitable post game rants. A good example is how he's using Donovan Dent this year. He was one of the best point guards in the nation last year running a spread out offense. Now he's nothing more than an average point guard in a really slow offense. Why not make some tweaks and see what happens? Also, his final four year and the following sweet sixteen were using some of Steve Alford's players (Tyger Campbell, Jaime Jaquez, etc.). It's been a slow downward slope since.
 

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