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Why 2018? (why not 2017, 2019, 2021, or any other year?)

Did you include 2020, and if so why?

Are these only P4 wins? If not then I don't know how valuable including wins against FCS is ...
 





GopherGrit said:
Why 2018? (why not 2017, 2019, 2021, or any other year?)
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Because thats the year I picked. Feel free to do another thread where you pick a different year?
GopherGrit said:
Did you include 2020, and if so why?
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Yes because it was faster to add up if I don’t have to think when I did it
GopherGrit said:
Are these only P4 wins? If not then I don't know how valuable including wins against FCS is ...
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This is all win. Feel free to not care if you choose to I guess?

lol
 


GopherGrit said:
Why 2018? (why not 2017, 2019, 2021, or any other year?)

Did you include 2020, and if so why?

Are these only P4 wins? If not then I don't know how valuable including wins against FCS is ...
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Why the nitpicking???
 



GopherGrit said:
Why 2018? (why not 2017, 2019, 2021, or any other year?)

Did you include 2020, and if so why?

Are these only P4 wins? If not then I don't know how valuable including wins against FCS is ...
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What year would you start with? Honest question? I think 2017 would be fair too since that was flecks first year
 



gopherbadgerman said:
What year would you start with? Honest question? I think 2017 would be fair too since that was flecks first year
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College football changed massively with NIL and now the House settlement.

Don't think it makes any sense to go back pre-covid, so I'd do 2021 onward. And would only count P4 games. No sense counting others, to me
 



GopherGrit said:
College football changed massively with NIL and now the House settlement.

Don't think it makes any sense to go back pre-covid, so I'd do 2021 onward. And would only count P4 games. No sense counting others, to me
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Yeah that’s fair.
This thread counts more games and further back.


I might start another thread of just power 4 wins since thanksgiving
 







Ope3 said:
We all know 2017/Year Zero doesn't count.

That's a GIven.
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Well it could count and it would change the numbers

But this thread isn’t really about fleck.
This thread as about the program.
I think if you want to compare the program to the rest of the conference or country as an “era” the turnaround to this level really was either fleck year 2 (2018) or Kill year 4 (2014)


If you’re trying to analyze fleck you’d either start in 17 or you’d start in 2021 (post covid) or post 2023 NIL (or whenever that was)
 



Some guy said:
Well it could count and it would change the numbers

But this thread isn’t really about fleck.
This thread as about the program.
I think if you want to compare the program to the rest of the conference or country as an “era” the turnaround to this level really was either fleck year 2 (2018) or Kill year 4 (2014)


If you’re trying to analyze fleck you’d either start in 17 or you’d start in 2021 (post covid) or post 2023 NIL (or whenever that was)
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I think you picked as good of a break point as any. No matter what year you choose there could be "why didn't you choose 20xx Year" since 2011:

2011 > Nebraska joined Big 10 / Championship Game / Divisions - Legends & Leaders

2014 > Maryland & Rutgers joined Big 10 / East - West Divisions

2016 > 9 Game Big 10 schedule (up from 8)

2019 > Transfer Portal / 4 Game Redshirt Rule

2020 > COVID Year

2021 > Bonus 5TH Year & Transfer Sit Out Year Waived / NIL

2023 > Big 10 Media Rights Bonanza moving from ESPN to CBS & NBC

2024 > PAC 4 joined Big 10 / Division-less / Non-interlocking schedule

Pleasing everyone is a Fool's Errand.
 
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Ope3 said:
I think you picked as good of a break point as any. No matter what year you choose there could be "why didn't you choose 20xx Year" since 2011:

2011 > Nebraska joined Big 10 / Championship Game / Divisions - Legends & Leaders

2014 > Maryland & Rutgers joined Big 10 / East - West Divisions

2019 > Transfer Portal / 4 Game Redshirt Rule

2020 > COVID Year

2021 > Bonus 5TH Year & Transfer Sit Out Year Waived / NIL

2023 > Big 10 Media Rights Bonanza moving from ESPN to CBS & NBC

2024 > PAC 4 joined Big 10 / Division-less / Non-interlocking schedule

Pleasing everyone is a Fool's Errand.
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2020 and 2021 are massive, the others barely even register compared to those

House settlement could be even larger but obviously not enough seasons to be meaningful
 
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GopherGrit said:
2020 and 2021 are massive, the others barely even register compared to those

House settlement could be even larger but obviously not enough seasons to be meaningful
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While 2020 & 2021 are no doubt a greater impact, I disagree with your minimization of the other events with how they impacted the Gophers.

They others significantly impacted the Gophers schedule make-up, thus Win totals. Especially the Divisions.

Before 2011 for example they were playing Penn St, Ohio St & Michigan each about 80% of the time, and pretty much guaranteed 2 of 3.

Now most seasons just 1.

Indiana, Maryland & Rutgers were getting the snot pounded out of them with 3 automatic losses year after year for a decade.

I have also updated the list to include going to a 9 Game Conference in 2016.
 
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Ope3 said:
While 2020 & 2021 are no doubt a greater impact, I disagree with your minimization of the other events with how they impacted the Gophers.

They others significantly impacted the Gophers schedule make-up, thus Win totals. Especially the Divisions.

Before 2011 for example they were playing Penn St, Ohio St & Michigan each about 80% of the time, and pretty much guaranteed 2 of 3.

Now most seasons just 1.

Indiana, Maryland & Rutgers were getting the snot pounded out of them with 3 automatic losses year after year for a decade.

I have also updated the list to include going to a 9 Game Conference in 2016.
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The easiest era in the big ten was the period from Penn state addition until Nebraska was added.
Particularly after a 12th regular season game was added.
You only played 8/10 in the conference (and MN was locked with Iowa and Wisconsin so they really only played 6/8). Plus 3 cupcakes in that era for the most part. After 2001 4 cupcakes until brew started scheduling people.

Wisconsin has big ten titles without ever beating a top 3 team in the conference.
2003 Mn went 10-3 and finished ranked but didn’t beat a team in the top HALF of the league

The league was also probably the most balanced it’s ever been from 1994-tressel getting hired at Ohio state so missing the big 3 meant something a little different than it does now. Really until 2004 it was a pretty balanced league. From 1994-2004 8 different programs won a big ten title. A 9th added a title in 2010.
From 1994-2010 every team in the conference won a conference title except Minnesota and Indiana
 

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