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Change is hard. I get that. There was a certain “coziness” about the bowl system where only two or four teams had to prepare for the games of their lives.

We will lose that coziness. The bowl system and even conference championships seem to be on borrowed time. I will definitely miss the days when the Outback Bowl was an event laced with conference pride.

But here we are. 12 special teams in a playoff (soon to be 16 or more). It has really been fun to see the December excitement of playoff games. Tennessee at Ohio State? Yes please. Even Alabama at Oklahoma. It matters!

Don’t tell me the regular season doesn’t matter anymore. It matters. Things are finally moving in the direction of what makes all sports special. A form of playoff that rejects human opinion in favor of the need to earn a real championship.

I can hardly wait until the Gophers are part of it. It will be light years better than playing on a baseball field with whats’s left of the roster after NFL defections and transfers.
 



Schnauzer said:
Change is hard. I get that. There was a certain “coziness” about the bowl system where only two or four teams had to prepare for the games of their lives.

We will lose that coziness. The bowl system and even conference championships seem to be on borrowed time. I will definitely miss the days when the Outback Bowl was an event laced with conference pride.

But here we are. 12 special teams in a playoff (soon to be 16 or more). It has really been fun to see the December excitement of playoff games. Tennessee at Ohio State? Yes please. Even Alabama at Oklahoma. It matters!

Don’t tell me the regular season doesn’t matter anymore. It matters. Things are finally moving in the direction of what makes all sports special. A form of playoff that rejects human opinion in favor of the need to earn a real championship.

I can hardly wait until the Gophers are part of it. It will be light years better than playing on a baseball field with whats’s left of the roster after NFL defections and transfers.
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I like your optimism that the Gophers will be in it, it’s just not reality.
 





Schnauzer said:
But here we are. 12 special teams in a playoff (soon to be 16 or more). It has really been fun to see the December excitement of playoff games. Tennessee at Ohio State? Yes please. Even Alabama at Oklahoma. It matters!
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James Madison versus Oregon. Whoop whoop never been so fucking excited in my entire life.
 











I for one actually am excited for the JMU game....and I actually think that Tulane will hang one on Ole Miss...
 
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Football is football, and football in all forms is a gift. This never becomes more apparent to me than in the three/four months following the end of the NBA/NHL playoffs when the only thing to watch is baseball. My version of hell is having to watch a perpetually endless season of major league baseball.
 


Nope. 16 games is a second season, and #16, with a poor record compared to others, could get hot and "win" the national championship. Four teams was the best, from the polls. Eight would be okay, most of the top ten in a blend of coaches and writers polls, which are almost identical to the committee's polls every year. They go back to 1936 and 1950 and decided the champion all those decades. Toss out the committee and its ratings. Keep it at eight finalists. Twelve is too many, sixteen will be basketball.
 

mngg11 said:
Football is football, and football in all forms is a gift. This never becomes more apparent to me than in the three/four months following the end of the NBA/NHL playoffs when the only thing to watch is baseball. My version of hell is having to watch a perpetually endless season of major league baseball.
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Who TF doesn't like baseball??

The most perfectly designed game ever devised by man.
Ground ball to deep short was a close play 150 years ago, still is. No clock. Bases can be earned, or stolen, or given away by error. Perfectly struck baseballs can be turned into outs by luck or good play, and vice versa.

Perfectly designed
 

USAF said:
Who TF doesn't like baseball??

The most perfectly designed game ever devised by man.
Ground ball to deep short was a close play 150 years ago, still is. No clock. Bases can be earned, or stolen, or given away by error. Perfectly struck baseballs can be turned into outs by luck or good play, and vice versa.

Perfectly designed
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God bless our British ancestors and bringing rounders to the New World.
 

TruthSeeker said:
End the tax exemption.
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The TV channels and TV distributors (cable/sat and streaming companies) that make big profits on broadcasting these games into peoples homes do get taxed, but there should absolutely be taxes collected on the rest of the big revenues of big time college athletics.
 

So long as Bowl Games continue to draw TV ratings, they will live on.

I don't understand how that isn't apparent.

Sports are what draws the ratings on live TV. Everyone wants sports.


As far as players not wanting to play in the bowl games, you just have to throw em a bigger bone. They will play, not a concern at all.
 

Conf championship games serve absolutely no purpose, and I think TV can see and understand that they could get higher ratings and make more money by replacing those 4 games (of the 10 that matter) with 4 more playoff games.
 

Tough to embrace today's gawd awful Hurricanes/Aggies pillow fight. That was excruciating for 58 minutes and then ended with another fail.

Looks like the Committee got it right though, choosing Miami over Notre Dame who already failed to beat those clowns.
 

alaska said:
I for one actually am excited for the JMU game....and I actually think that Tulane will hang one on Ole Miss...
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Well to this point Tulane has hung 3 on Ole Miss but not looking real promising for them to get the W unless things turn around real quick.

I'm all for getting variety into the playoff beyond just a bunch of SEC and Big Ten teams but lopsided games like these don't really strengthen the case that these non power 4 teams belong in the mix.
 


Crosby said:
I guess you are not a fan of the NCAA basketball tourney then either?
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I thought some more on this. I think the real difference comes down to, in basketball the smaller/undersized team is pretty much allowed to cross half court uncontested and so they will always get a shot off. It might be a long 3, but if it goes in, they keep it close and can win.

In football, you start (usually) at your own 25 and have to convert a handful of first downs just to cross midfield and potentially kick a field goal. That's what makes the upset so hard. Even if the smaller team gets a few first downs, they can still end the drive without even a legit shot at scoring.

If the entire football game was played according to the overtime rules, where the undersized team is already starting only 25 yards from the goal, then I'd agree that upsets could happen.
 

GopherTheJugular said:
I thought some more on this. I think the real difference comes down to, in basketball the smaller/undersized team is pretty much allowed to cross half court uncontested and so they will always get a shot off. It might be a long 3, but if it goes in, they keep it close and can win.

In football, you start (usually) at your own 25 and have to convert a handful of first downs just to cross midfield and potentially kick a field goal. That's what makes the upset so hard. Even if the smaller team gets a few first downs, they can still end the drive without even a legit shot at scoring.

If the entire football game was played according to the overtime rules, where the undersized team is already starting only 25 yards from the goal, then I'd agree that upsets could happen.
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Yeah....to score a big upset in football you usually need the more talented team to help by making mistakes (turnovers, key penalties). In basketball an upset can happen much easier just based on how guys are shooting on a given night.
 

MNVCGUY said:
Yeah....to score a big upset in football you usually need the more talented team to help by making mistakes (turnovers, key penalties). In basketball an upset can happen much easier just based on how guys are shooting on a given night.
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Yes, I agree that it's much easier for this to happen in basketball. But upsets happen in football all the time, including an occasional game with 20+ point spreads. The only argument here is whether you are trying to get the true 12 best teams in CFB in the playoff . Or... is the objective to get the best field possible, while giving SOME consideration to conference affiliation? If it's the former, then we might as well just take the top 12 ranked teams. If it's the latter, then it seems to me that there has to be some consideration for Group of Five teams. Otherwise, why not break all of FBS apart limit the playoffs to Power 4 teams? Might be the direction we go anyway.
 

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