Troy Aikman is ‘done’ funding NIL: ‘Didn’t even get a thank you’

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First, this has to be Dante Moore, right.

Second, how would the kid know origin of the money. There’s no way he wrote a check directly to the kid? That seems extraordinarily awkward. If it was a donation to the collective, you’d think they would be smart enough to have some sort of donor relations department.
 




Kinda a bad vibe from Troy there IMO.

I like my employer, I'm polite to my employer .... I don't send them thank you cards for gracing me with a paycheck .. I do the job, they owe me and we roll on.

If you're giving to NIL you're giving money for some athlete to go try to do a thing. They bust their ass and do the thing and the deal is over. It's an exchange. Now the U (and I think dinky town athletes) sends me videos of players saying thank you and that's very nice, but by no means do they need to thank me for it.
 

A_Slab_of_Bacon said:
Kinda a bad vibe from Troy there IMO.

I like my employer, I'm polite to my employer .... I don't send them thank you cards for gracing me with a paycheck .. I do the job, they owe me and we roll on.

If you're giving to NIL you're giving money for some athlete to go try to do a thing. They bust their ass and do the thing and the deal is over. It's an exchange. Now the U (and I think dinky town athletes) sends me videos of players saying thank you and that's very nice, but by no means do they need to thank me for it.
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Such an awkward spot to put these players for no other reason than to avoid paying players directly for as long as possible.
 




GreasyGopher said:
First, this has to be Dante Moore, right.

Second, how would the kid know origin of the money. There’s no way he wrote a check directly to the kid? That seems extraordinarily awkward. If it was a donation to the collective, you’d think they would be smart enough to have some sort of donor relations department.
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Has to be Moore. As we've learned, these are YEARLY deals. Hence the "I'm announcing I'm coming back to the U thanks to DTA", or however those tweets are worded. I suppose it depends on what was offered to Moore and how it was framed to Aikman by the UCLA collective. Was it a multi-year guaranteed offer, and Aikman was helping fund that? At which point, I can see why he'd be annoyed. However, until these turn into legit, legally-binding contracts, this will continue to be a bleep-show, and you have to know that going in.

Just on the surface, I'd be pissed too. People here still constantly bring up Bucky Irving, and he doesn't have nearly the impact as a QB. Imagine having Dante Moore, losing him to a conference rival, and then your team completely tanks. This place would go nuclear.
 


A_Slab_of_Bacon said:
Kinda a bad vibe from Troy there IMO.

I like my employer, I'm polite to my employer .... I don't send them thank you cards for gracing me with a paycheck .. I do the job, they owe me and we roll on.

If you're giving to NIL you're giving money for some athlete to go try to do a thing. They bust their ass and do the thing and the deal is over. It's an exchange. Now the U (and I think dinky town athletes) sends me videos of players saying thank you and that's very nice, but by no means do they need to thank me for it.
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Maybe Troy gave more coin than you did?

It’s common practice, for any “non-profit”to have some sort of acknowledgment for any gift, especially for large donors or potentially larger ones.

I went out drinking one night with a guy who was in the fundraising department for a nationally known organization, he was a friend of my buddy’s; the three of us had a good time and I got his card and sent him a check next week, $500 - not a text, call or thank u in any form or fashion

Why would I ever send him any more $, let alone increase it? Lots of people start smaller to see how they’re treated before making a more substantial contribution. Additionally, whom do I know that I might convince to also support that organization?

There’s lots of checkers players in the world and not many whom play chess.
 

Gopher_In_NYC said:
Maybe Troy gave more coin than you did?

It’s common practice, for any “non-profit”to have some sort of acknowledgment for any gift, especially for large donors or potentially larger ones.

I went out drinking one night with a guy who was in the fundraising department for a nationally known organization, he was a friend of my buddy’s; the three of us had a good time and I got his card and sent him a check next week, $500 - not a text, call or thank u in any form or fashion

Why would I ever send him any more $, let alone increase it? Lots of people start smaller to see how they’re treated before making a more substantial contribution. Additionally, whom do I know that I might convince to also support that organization?

There’s lots of checkers players in the world and not many whom play chess.
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The lack of response isn’t on the athlete though. The donor relations arm of the UCLA NIL collective should’ve handled.
 



Gopher_In_NYC said:
Maybe Troy gave more coin than you did?

It’s common practice, for any “non-profit”to have some sort of acknowledgment for any gift, especially for large donors or potentially larger ones.

I went out drinking one night with a guy who was in the fundraising department for a nationally known organization, he was a friend of my buddy’s; the three of us had a good time and I got his card and sent him a check next week, $500 - not a text, call or thank u in any form or fashion

Why would I ever send him any more $, let alone increase it? Lots of people start smaller to see how they’re treated before making a more substantial contribution. Additionally, whom do I know that I might convince to also support that organization?

There’s lots of checkers players in the world and not many whom play chess.
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These are kids who are athletes ... not a nonprofit.

That's an absurd comparison.
 

The current NIL cluster is unsustainable. The synergistic Oregon/Phil Knight/Nike situation is an anomaly. Most boosters typically give because they love their school and team. That enjoyment is their ROI.

At minimum, the donors are just fans and probably want to enjoy the recruitment and development of players and team over a period of time. That "loyalty" situation doesn't exist right now, neither contractually nor personally, because of the open portal. As such, the booster gets no ROI, especially when players have zero loyalty to a school.

This NIL situation is a bubble that will pop.
 

GreasyGopher said:
The lack of response isn’t on the athlete though. The donor relations arm of the UCLA NIL collective should’ve handled.
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Where specifically did I day it was the athlete’s responsibility???? My post strictly referred to organizations, so save your animus for the OTB🤦‍♂️ regarding my posts, kiddo

A_Slab_of_Bacon said:
These are kids who are athletes ... not a nonprofit.
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Never said they were🤷‍♂️
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That's an absurd comparison.
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That’s absurd reading comprehension🥸, but I still think you’re a good dude.

The subject of this conversation was the NIL collective and the way specifically they handled said contribution from Troy Aikman🤷‍♂️
 
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Gopher_In_NYC said:
Where specifically did I day it was the athlete’s responsibility???? My post strictly referred to organizations, so save your animus for the OTB🤦‍♂️ regarding my posts, kiddo


Never said they were🤷‍♂️

That’s absurd reading comprehension🤷‍♂️, but I still think you’re a good dude.

The subject of this conversation was the NIL collective and the way specifically they handled said contribution from Troy Aikman.
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I didn’t say you said it was the athletes responsibility. I agree something should be done to acknowledge those that donate. I’m clarifying where that acknowledgement should originate. It’s not the kids fault that Troy wasn’t acknowledged and there shouldn’t be an expectation for the kids receiving this money to thank a rich booster that made a donation.
 

A_Slab_of_Bacon said:
Kinda a bad vibe from Troy there IMO.

I like my employer, I'm polite to my employer .... I don't send them thank you cards for gracing me with a paycheck .. I do the job, they owe me and we roll on.

If you're giving to NIL you're giving money for some athlete to go try to do a thing. They bust their ass and do the thing and the deal is over. It's an exchange. Now the U (and I think dinky town athletes) sends me videos of players saying thank you and that's very nice, but by no means do they need to thank me for it.
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Except with the current NIL it is basically a gift with no personal gain for someone like Troy. So no payment for services or work like your employer.
 

GreasyGopher said:
I didn’t say you said it was the athletes responsibility.
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Your sentence structure from your previous sentence below implied that i thought it was the athlete’s responsibility, thus contradicting your above assertion

The lack of response isn’t on the athlete though

GreasyGopher said:
I agree something should be done to acknowledge those that donate.
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GreasyGopher said:
I’m clarifying where that acknowledgement should originate.
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Whom is the clarification for and why is it required, if I didn’t say anything you disagree with?

I really don’t come on here for meaningless discussions/arguments about sports - I did enuff of that on my salad days.
I’m Here for 💩 and giggles.

So, maybe you need to find someone else to build sand castles with bro 👋.

GreasyGopher said:
It’s not the kids fault that Troy wasn’t acknowledged and there shouldn’t be an expectation for the kids receiving this money to thank a rich booster that made a donation.
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Never disagreed
 

Gopher_In_NYC said:
Your sentence structure from your previous sentence below implied that i thought it was the athlete’s responsibility, thus contradicting your above assertion

The lack of response isn’t on the athlete though


👍


Whom is the clarification for and why is it required, if I didn’t say anything you disagree with?

I really don’t come on here for meaningless discussions/arguments about sports - I did enuff of that on my salad days.
I’m Here for 💩 and giggles.

So, maybe you need to find someone else to build sand castles with bro 👋.


Never disagreed
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Hope this made you feel better.
 


alchemy2u said:
Except with the current NIL it is basically a gift with no personal gain for someone like Troy. So no payment for services or work like your employer.
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It's a gift to ... go do the job.

If it was truly just an altruistic gift for someone, I think it is bad form to expect something back even then.
 

This interview does a good job of exposing the degrading nature of the current pay arrangement. The fact that it seems people think these athletes need to express gratitude for receiving compensation for performing a service for their school is absolutely ridiculous.
 


didn't see anywhere troy said, i didn't even get a thank you directly from the athlete. There was no thank you at all. one would hope that the NIL collective would take it on themselves to provide thank yous to donors and if they want to encourage athletes to fill those out, that would certainly make good business to encourage people to continue to donate.

that said, mountain out of a mole hill. clearly we're now in the down season
 

A_Slab_of_Bacon said:
Kinda a bad vibe from Troy there IMO.

I like my employer, I'm polite to my employer .... I don't send them thank you cards for gracing me with a paycheck .. I do the job, they owe me and we roll on.

If you're giving to NIL you're giving money for some athlete to go try to do a thing. They bust their ass and do the thing and the deal is over. It's an exchange. Now the U (and I think dinky town athletes) sends me videos of players saying thank you and that's very nice, but by no means do they need to thank me for it.
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Really? NIL is a little bit of a platypus but its much closer to being a gift than it is a paycheck. What did Troy get in return? Did the player or players lend their actual NIL to some product Troy was selling? Did they make appearances on behalf of a good or service that Troy markets to the public? No and that's why NIL generally is not a tax deduction for the contributor. There's no quid quo pro. Now one might argue that Troy was paying a player or players to play for his rooting interest. But the reality is that the player is playing for the team, not for Troy. It isn't a difficult thing to do to say thank you to the folks that are putting money in your pockets. If its the collective or the school that missed the boat on this, shame on them. If Troy was paying player in some kind of direct manner, shame on the player. I don't know what kind of business you are in, if at all, but a thank you goes a long ways, even when you are paying someone or being paid.
 

upnorthkid said:
didn't see anywhere troy said, i didn't even get a thank you directly from the athlete. There was no thank you at all. one would hope that the NIL collective would take it on themselves to provide thank yous to donors and if they want to encourage athletes to fill those out, that would certainly make good business to encourage people to continue to donate.

that said, mountain out of a mole hill. clearly we're now in the down season
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“I wrote a sizable check, and he went to another school. I didn’t even get so much as a Thank You note.”

I think that statement can be interpreted as expecting the kid to thank him directly.
 

GreasyGopher said:
“I wrote a sizable check, and he went to another school. I didn’t even get so much as a Thank You note.”

I think that statement can be interpreted as expecting the kid to thank him directly.
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i took it as he was told by the NIL group we need this to get and keep dante moore (ie enticing him) and they didn't thank him for stepping up.

either way, kind of a nothingburger imo. same as people who get all bent out of shape when someone else doesn't say thank you for holding a door, picking up a tab, etc. i'd blame the nil group more than i ever would the player. if he was directly paying the player (ie wrote the check for access to his NIL), then i'd sure love to know what exactly troy used his NIL for and how he got value from it as that would be a pretty clear NCAA violation and someone going on record being dumb enough to say it out loud.
 


Gopher_In_NYC said:
Maybe Troy gave more coin than you did?

It’s common practice, for any “non-profit”to have some sort of acknowledgment for any gift, especially for large donors or potentially larger ones.

I went out drinking one night with a guy who was in the fundraising department for a nationally known organization, he was a friend of my buddy’s; the three of us had a good time and I got his card and sent him a check next week, $500 - not a text, call or thank u in any form or fashion

Why would I ever send him any more $, let alone increase it? Lots of people start smaller to see how they’re treated before making a more substantial contribution. Additionally, whom do I know that I might convince to also support that organization?

There’s lots of checkers players in the world and not many whom play chess.
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This is how I feel too. In the past 8 or 10 years I have reconnected with my undergraduate school (Luther College). Every time that I send them any gift they respond immediately with a thoughtful "thank you" note. The last time I donated they sent me a specific message that I am very close to being eligible for the "President's Alumni Cabinet." Don't know what that exactly means but it sounds nice. Anyway, I will not hesitate to continue donating. I don't need to be told that I'm special, being appreciated goes a long way.
 

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