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stocker08 said:
Then why force the comparison when it's completely irrelevant? It was a stupid take even before doubling down.
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At least you realize it wasn't "an argument", progress at least on that front.

I would hardly call the initial statement a "take" either. It was intended as an innocuous statement.

I stand by it though, nonetheless.

Have fun watching Bowl Season.
 






U2Gopher said:
Yes, but I also question why year in and year out, we manage to give away 1-2 games and then bitch, whine and moan about bowl placement. We did this to ourselves as usual. Beat Northwestern. Best Cal. It’s that simple. You’d be playing on New Year’s Day if you were 8-4 or 9-3, but we give it away…annually.

It would be the most Minnesota thing ever to have the bowl streak broken by New Mexico. They are good. Better than most here realize. It’ll be their superbowl so the Gophers better bring a different team than the one that traveled to Chicago.
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I agree with your post, though New Years Day is reserved for the CFP only.

The Gophers beating Cal & Northwestern would have left their resume a bit short.

New Year's Eve, maybe.
 

Ope3 said:
At least you realize it wasn't "an argument", progress at least on that front.

I would hardly call the initial statement a "take" either. It was intended as an innocuous statement.

I stand by it though, nonetheless.

Have fun watching Bowl Season.
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It wasn't an argument with anyone other than yourself, since nobody was arguing that the ISU/KSU game in Dublin was less important than a middling bowl game. It was just a lame attempt to discount bowl season by hacking away at a strawman of your own making.
 






If anything we should have a motivated opponent looking for their 10th win who knows how gutted they'll be by the portal or if New Mexico will let guys play who intend to enter the portal, but we should still beat a team that lost to 3-9 San Jose State
 

howeda7 said:
Whining losers.
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As usual, you’re not a deep thinker.

In a few years, on the trajectory that CFB and college sports are on, there will be a lot of members yelling at the NCAA. It’s the Wild West. The big programs with big donors (in conferences) are running the show.

I don’t care about the success of ND, but I do care about parity of competition in college sports, or at least equal opportunity to succeed.
 




stocker08 said:
It wasn't an argument with anyone other than yourself, since nobody was arguing that the ISU/KSU game in Dublin was less important than a middling bowl game. It was just a lame attempt to discount bowl season by hacking away at a strawman of your own making.
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There was no argument. It was a statement of opinion, that both teams and fanbases have already had a unique football experience.

You projected (& continue) the statement to statement into something it's not.

Nobody needs me to "attempt to discount bowl season". Iowa St & Kansas St have already done that, along with a long list of Players, Head Coaches & Assistant Coaches for now hundreds of teams in the past decade.

Enjoy the Bowl Season!

Personally I paid far more attention to Week Zero.
 


Ope3 said:
There was no argument. It was a statement of opinion, that both teams and fanbases have already had a unique football experience.

You projected (& continue) the statement to statement into something it's not.

Nobody needs me to "attempt to discount bowl season". Iowa St & Kansas St have already done that, along with a long list of Players, Head Coaches & Assistant Coaches for now hundreds of teams in the past decade.

Enjoy the Bowl Season!

Personally I paid far more attention to Week Zero.
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It was a poor attempt to discount bowl games by saying that the KSU/ISU game in Dublin was a more meaningful game. An opinion aimed aimed towards me despite the fact that I never said otherwise.

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stocker08 said:
It was a poor attempt to discount bowl games by saying that the KSU/ISU game in Dublin was a more meaningful game. An opinion aimed aimed towards me despite the fact that I never said otherwise.
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Again you are projecting things I did not state.
 

Ope3 said:
Again you are projecting things I did not state.
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It's great when people post dumb things, double down, and then act like they never posted it rather than show an ounce of integrity on a message board where everyone is anonymous.

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Ope3 said:
NCAA has nothing to do with the CFP.
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Would the CFP exist without the NCAA? No, it wouldn’t.

The NCAA creates the organism that the CFP selects from. The CFP may operate independently from the NCAA, but they are dependent on the NCAA to create rules and regulations that determine the priorities and values of the competition in college football. Plus, the CFP organization is made up of a subset of the entity that the NCAA represents, university leadership.

So they are related.
 

stocker08 said:
It's great when people post dumb things, double down, and then act like they never posted it rather than show an ounce of integrity on a message board where everyone is anonymous.

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This is another misguided failure on an incorrect interpretion for what you posted #557.
 


WAGopher said:
Notre Dame just opted out of any bowl game this year.

Quit being babies and join a conference.
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Do they count for ACC filling it's bowl slots? I thought that was part of the deal of them playing ACC games, is they get access to some ACC bowls? Or maybe that's just the thing with the Orange Bowl ... and perhaps that was before the 12 team playoff. Not sure how it works now
 

Ope3 said:
I think it would.
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Something might have existed in its absence, but who knows what it would look like.

I don’t care about ND, but I think that this situation is indicative of a much larger problem. I believe that the NCAA is failing in the objective of providing the institutions that it represents a fair and level competitive playing field for its athletes.

I think the posters that are laughing at ND are going to be complaining about competition in a few years. The big money programs in the Big Ten (Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, USC, Oregon) and SEC are going to dominate the rest of the conference and nation. Indiana caught lightning in a bottle, but unless they have deep pockets, I suspect it will be temporary.

The NCAA treated players like chattel by having complete control of the liberty of athletes. So much so that they were guiltlessly violating the rights of those athletes because it was working for the schools. Then, the whole system was blown up and money became the priority for all parties, including the athletes, to get theirs. Student-athlete is a misnomer these days.

College football players have far more control over their college playing experience than NFL players, but the academic priorities are optional. College football coaches have more ability to break a contract than NFL coaches can even imagine.

I want someone to get control of this shitshow and stop letting big money take over complete control of college football, and give all athletic programs of similarity a chance to succeed without big money being the competitive advantage that preordains the outcome.
 
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Ope3 said:
This is another misguided failure on an incorrect interpretion for what you posted #557.
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Ah, so you had absolutely zero point for those original posts. Could have just admitted that right off the bat rather than the stream of deflections since.
 


MaxyJR1 said:
Baylor, KSU, ISU, Notre Dame all out for bowls.
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First three absolutely deserve big fines. Big XII should go higher on the fines.

Not sure if ACC has the authority to fine ND for skipping out, not sure how the updated bowl deal works.
 

GopherGrit said:
First three absolutely deserve big fines. Big XII should go higher on the fines.

Not sure if ACC has the authority to fine ND for skipping out, not sure how the updated bowl deal works.
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I would love to see the bowls blackball Notre Dame going forward. Say what you will about ISU and KSU, at least they have a penalty owed to their conference. If Notre Dame makes the CFP so be it, if not, they can just be done no questions asked.
 

GopherGrit said:
Do they count for ACC filling it's bowl slots? I thought that was part of the deal of them playing ACC games, is they get access to some ACC bowls? Or maybe that's just the thing with the Orange Bowl ... and perhaps that was before the 12 team playoff. Not sure how it works now
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I believe Notre Dame has a football agreement to play 5 ACC teams each year as an Independent. The benefit for Notre Dame is having 5 P4 games they don’t have to negotiate and leaves them 7 games with flexibility to play their traditional opponents. And the benefit for the ACC is 5 high profile games and additional TV money.

Notre Dame’s playoff agreement is separate from the ACC’s.
 

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