ACC tiebreakers

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fortunately Indiana and Ohio State probably wax everyone so this won’t happen in the big ten


 



Large conferences cause schools to put these out.

Kind of a fascinating method they got to the title matchup

Per AP

Boise State, New Mexico, San Diego State and UNLV all finished with 6-2 records in conference play. Because all four teams did not meet this season, the tie was broken by a composite average of nationally recognized metrics: Connelly SP+, ESPN SOR, KPI and SportSource rankings.
 



How does a Virginia loss to NC State not count as a conference loss?
It would be like if the big ten didn’t schedule Mn vs Illinois so we decided to schedule them for a non conference game.
 


I guess it happens more in high school (non-football sports) where a team may not get a specific rival on their schedule and will schedule them as non-conference, or in basketball where maybe a conference will schedule two teams to a conference game and then the schools will schedule a second game as a non-conference game.

I don't think I've ever heard of that happening in college sports or at least haven't paid attention to it.
 

Indiana and Purdue played a non-conference basketball game in the old Hoosier Dome the year they were only scheduled for one Big Ten game. I think it was early 2000s.
 
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I mean, I get it, but these conferences aren't pulling these tiebreaker procedures out of their ass at the last minute. They're all agreed upon well in advance of the season by the ADs, who I assume discuss the options with their coaches. Everyone knows what the process is. Don't like it? Work with other like-minded allies within your conference to change the rules.
 

Always sucks when you get in scenarios where you have to break a tie and can't fall back on head to head results to do it. Unfortunately that is going to become more and more common in these mega conferences with unbalanced schedules and no divisions.

Whoever gets left out is always going to feel like they got hosed but it is what it is.
 

If Duke loses in the ACC Championship game, I wouldn't be surprised if the Gophers play them in NYC.
 

I guess it happens more in high school (non-football sports) where a team may not get a specific rival on their schedule and will schedule them as non-conference, or in basketball where maybe a conference will schedule two teams to a conference game and then the schools will schedule a second game as a non-conference game.

I don't think I've ever heard of that happening in college sports or at least haven't paid attention to it.
Because conference schedules were never absolutely stupid until literally 2024

The good news is, the ACC fiasco may incentivize a system where conferences want their best teams to win the conference via a building a schedule that funnels the cream to the top.
This is done via round robins.

Easy way to schedule the big ten.
3 groups of 6.
Play 5 in your 6 plus 4 randoms.
This funnels teams.

Change the groups of 6 every two years.

In 6 years you play every team a minimum of home and home.
You can make sure the current locked rivals are all always in the same group of 6 or are always selected “randomly”


Another way to do it is to have two groups of 9.
Play your group plus one random. The random could be non random to save a rivalry


People are anti divisions. But you can have scheduling groups even without divisions.
 



It would be like if the big ten didn’t schedule Mn vs Illinois so we decided to schedule them for a non conference game.
I thought conferences generally did not allow you to schedule a non-conference game against an in-conference opponent. I know MN-Wisconsin 2020 was non-conference due to Covid re-scheduling.

Anyway, Virginia having wins over Stanford and Cal count as ACC games and a loss to NC State not count encapsulates modern college sports.
 

I thought conferences generally did not allow you to schedule a non-conference game against an in-conference opponent. I know MN-Wisconsin 2020 was non-conference due to Covid re-scheduling.

Anyway, Virginia having wins over Stanford and Cal count as ACC games and a loss to NC State not count encapsulates modern college sports.
In the big ten you can right now.
 




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