IF we finish with only 6 wins....

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Maryland and Penn State need to go 2-0 to be in a Bowl.
Maryland plays Michigan/MSU and PSU plays Nebraska/Rutgers.

Rutgers needs one win and plays tOSU and PSU

Northwestern needs one win and play MN and ILL

10 teams are Bowl Eligible and possibly 1-2 more make it.

3 likely in the playoff with IN, tOSU and winner of Oregon and USC. (Close game won by USC and maybe 4 teams)

That's about 9 Spots to put teams .

Los Angeles for PAC12 tie in of possibly Washington
Alamo possibly USC/Oregon if not in playoff
Detroit
Rate in Phoenix
Pinstripe
Music City
RaliaQuest Tampa
Citrus
Las Vegas

Minnesota is only B1G team to be to Detroit in last 7 years. Would be surprised to send us there again. Especially if PSU, Rutgers and Northwestern aren't eligible.
 

Texan Gopher said:
Is there any way we don't end up in Detroit for the bowl.game ???
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I'm not sure there's going to be enough eligible teams for the big ten to fill the Detroit game? Even if NW beats us to get to six, Penn State could lose to Nebraska and beat Rutgers and neither team would go bowling. With that said that would be very disappointing and I would be eating a lot of crow if we lose to NW and Wisconsin
 

Remember, all the old Pac-12 teams still have those tie-ins, so leave out Washington & USC when making your bowl determinations.

If the Gophers end up 6-6, the following teams would be Bowl Eligible (leaving out Indiana & Ohio State, who are playoff bound)

Michigan - Citrus
Iowa - Winner of Black Friday game to Reliaquest
Nebraska - Loser of Black Friday game to Vegas (if Nebraska beats PSU)
Illinois - Music City
Northwestern - Pinstripe
Minnesota - Rate

If they go 1-1 (lose to NU, beat WI) they still go to the Rate
If they go 2-0, maybe Vegas or Music City. But probably still Rate. Maybe it won't rain before they cover the roof this time.
 



With 6 wins still hell home. Neither players nor coaches deserve a bowl.
 












Honestly besides a small group of hardcore fans anything besides a Florida Bowl or better is just another 3rd rate bowl game.

I’d like to see them in Nashville because I would maybe go to the game or Phoenix for the weather. But in all honesty playing in any of those or NY or wherever is just kinda meh…better than not making a bowl for sure but do any of those games really move the needle for any casual fan?
 


gopherbadgerman said:
Honestly besides a small group of hardcore fans anything besides a Florida Bowl or better is just another 3rd rate bowl game.

I’d like to see them in Nashville because I would maybe go to the game or Phoenix for the weather. But in all honesty playing in any of those or NY or wherever is just kinda meh…better than not making a bowl for sure but do any of those games really move the needle for any casual fan?
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There are very few bowl games left in the CFP era that move the needle for the casual fan. Bowls are basically just a way to fill programing over the holidays.

Getting those extra practices is great because it gives coaches a chance to really focus on younger players and figure out where the holes in the roster are going to be. The game itself really doesn't end up meaning all that much.
 

btowngopher said:
And none in the 50 years prior since the 62 Rose Bowl.
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FIFY if you believe that none of the bowls between the 62 Rose Bowl and 20 Outback Bowl were better than the Outback Bowl.

I think the team that played in the 15 Citrus Bowl may disagree with you.

The Citrus Bowl has always been a better bowl destination than the Outback (now Reliaquest) Bowl.

Congrats, you just took away PJ's best bowl - which is not fair to PJ or that team.
 

MNVCGUY said:
There are very few bowl games left in the CFP era that move the needle for the casual fan. Bowls are basically just a way to fill programing over the holidays.

Getting those extra practices is great because it gives coaches a chance to really focus on younger players and figure out where the holes in the roster are going to be. The game itself really doesn't end up meaning all that much.
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Totally agree. No problem with having them tho. Still a good reason to take a vacation if its somewhere fun. They are basically glorified exhibition games anymore. Lot of the kids headed to the next level are opting out (don't blame them). I think fans should just enjoy them for what they are and not put too much value on them. All 12 regular season games are way more important.
 


caliGopher said:
FIFY if you believe that none of the bowls between the 62 Rose Bowl and 20 Outback Bowl were better than the Outback Bowl.

I think the team that played in the 15 Citrus Bowl may disagree with you.

The Citrus Bowl has always been a better bowl destination than the Outback (now Reliaquest) Bowl.

Congrats, you just took away PJ's best bowl - which is not fair to PJ or that team.
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You really got me, I guess we played in one other “good” bowl game, throw in the Sun Bowls too I guess. Auburn was the best bowl opponent we’ve faced since the Rose bowl. Plus we actually looked like we belonged there unlike the 15 Citrus bowl. I’d rather win games then hang my hat on being selected arbitrarily for this bowl or that bowl.
 

btowngopher said:
You really got me, I guess we played in one other “good” bowl game, throw in the Sun Bowls too I guess. Auburn was the best bowl opponent we’ve faced since the Rose bowl. Plus we actually looked like we belonged there unlike the 15 Citrus bowl. I’d rather win games then hang my hat on being selected arbitrarily for this bowl or that bowl.
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Goal wasn't to get you. You're not wrong that most of the bowls we've been in have been Johnny Come lately bowls that didn't exist in the hey day of bowl games.

I'd add the Holiday Bowl to the list of meaninful bowls - having grown up on the West Coast it was similar to the Rose as the Citrus, Reliaquest, Gator Bowls were to the Orange Bowl, and was always well regarded.

That gives us 5 bowls of importance if not relevance in 62 years, still not a whole lot to brag about.

Winning is better, I agree. While the Outback bowl win was impressive and against the highest ranked opponent we've beaten in a bowl game, I still believe the Holiday Bowl is our best bowl win given the circumstances in that game, and how the coaches adjusted the game plan to stifle the WSU offense.

Under the current bowl system, I'm not sure bowl games will ever be really meaninful again unless they're in the playoff rotation.

I wonder how long before the list begins to dwindle. The VT side we played last year would have lost to one of Wacker's teams.
 



btowngopher said:
Auburn was the best bowl opponent we’ve faced since the Rose bowl. Plus we actually looked like we belonged there unlike the 15 Citrus bowl. I’d rather win games then hang my hat on being selected arbitrarily for this bowl or that bowl.
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Agreed. My feeling is that it doesn't matter how prestigious your opponent is if that opponent kicks your ass. All you've demonstrated is that you didn't belong there. Just because one shares a meeting with a billionaire doesn't make him one.

Also, bowl games matter to me. They are the last impression you have of the team before waiting 8 months for the next season to start. I think Fleck deserves credit for his bowl streak because he left us with positive feelings at the end of a lot of seasons.
 




caliGopher said:
Goal wasn't to get you. You're not wrong that most of the bowls we've been in have been Johnny Come lately bowls that didn't exist in the hey day of bowl games.

I'd add the Holiday Bowl to the list of meaninful bowls - having grown up on the West Coast it was similar to the Rose as the Citrus, Reliaquest, Gator Bowls were to the Orange Bowl, and was always well regarded.

That gives us 5 bowls of importance if not relevance in 62 years, still not a whole lot to brag about.

Winning is better, I agree. While the Outback bowl win was impressive and against the highest ranked opponent we've beaten in a bowl game, I still believe the Holiday Bowl is our best bowl win given the circumstances in that game, and how the coaches adjusted the game plan to stifle the WSU offense.

Under the current bowl system, I'm not sure bowl games will ever be really meaninful again unless they're in the playoff rotation.

I wonder how long before the list begins to dwindle. The VT side we played last year would have lost to one of Wacker's teams.
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Yes, the Gopher defense was superb in that Holiday Bowl win. Got some payback on Coach Air Raid after Mason's epic last game collapse. Plus Claeys was able to rebuild the team's spirit after those ugly suspensions.That tipped pass in the end zone to Brooks that should have been a typical Leidner pick stands out for mind.
 

MaxyJR1 said:
Maryland and Penn State need to go 2-0 to be in a Bowl.
Maryland plays Michigan/MSU and PSU plays Nebraska/Rutgers.

Rutgers needs one win and plays tOSU and PSU

Northwestern needs one win and play MN and ILL

10 teams are Bowl Eligible and possibly 1-2 more make it.

3 likely in the playoff with IN, tOSU and winner of Oregon and USC. (Close game won by USC and maybe 4 teams)

That's about 9 Spots to put teams .

Los Angeles for PAC12 tie in of possibly Washington
Alamo possibly USC/Oregon if not in playoff
Detroit
Rate in Phoenix
Pinstripe
Music City
RaliaQuest Tampa
Citrus
Las Vegas

Minnesota is only B1G team to be to Detroit in last 7 years. Would be surprised to send us there again. Especially if PSU, Rutgers and Northwestern aren't eligible.
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Spot on. Thanks for the nice breakdown. I’d say with the current B1G “placement” process, it seems likely MN ends up in Nashville or Vegas almost regardless of record since they haven’t been to either bowl in the current cycle.
 

With only 6 wins, pack up the equipment, hit the weight room. Fire both coordinators and the line coaches. Hit the portal hard for just about every position available. Please don’t offer anyone with just 1 year of eligibility even though we had good success with Bosmer. Not so much with others.
 

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