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Is that the future? Indiana-Mich St, the week Indiana became #3, its highest rank ever, and its coach given a fabulous contract, was available on Peacock Premium only; likewise, Penn State -Iowa, a major game of the season, the week Coach Franklin was fired, also is available only on Premium Peacock. That must have shrunk the TV audience for both games and cheated most fans of two of the most important and interesting games of the season. Eventually we may have to have a B10 contract first, then pay a game day fee on top of that. The greed will never end, and the schools, ironically, will never have enough money.
 

Has more to do with the commitment NBC has with Notre Dame. That always seems to get the network's attention above all else. The problem is NBC doesn't really have an "overflow" option for additional games like others do. FOX can play multiple games in primetime thanks to FS1, CBS can do it with CBS Sports Network, ditto with ESPN having ESPN2/ESPNU.

With NBC, though, since NBC Sports Network shut down, there's no second dedicated sports channel that it can broadcast the Big Ten game while Notre Dame gets the network station. So in this case, those other games are going to get pushed on its streaming platform.
 


Fox, CBS and I guess ABC via ESPN all have their fingers in the Big 10 pie. That's more money than they are ever going to make via streaming.
 

Breakin' The Plane said:
Fox, CBS and I guess ABC via ESPN all have their fingers in the Big 10 pie. That's more money than they are ever going to make via streaming.
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ABC/ESPN currently has zero inventory of Big 10 Regular Season Football. The only time a Big 10 Team appears on that platform is when they are on the road against a Conference that does.

The current Big 10 rights holders for football & basketball are:

FOX/FS1-BTN
CBS
NBC/Peacock
 
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IceBoxGopher said:
Has more to do with the commitment NBC has with Notre Dame. That always seems to get the network's attention above all else. The problem is NBC doesn't really have an "overflow" option for additional games like others do. FOX can play multiple games in primetime thanks to FS1, CBS can do it with CBS Sports Network, ditto with ESPN having ESPN2/ESPNU.

With NBC, though, since NBC Sports Network shut down, there's no second dedicated sports channel that it can broadcast the Big Ten game while Notre Dame gets the network station. So in this case, those other games are going to get pushed on its streaming platform.
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NBC Sports Network is being re-launched but I assume most B1G will remain on Peacock.
 

Great Plains Gopher said:
Is that the future? Indiana-Mich St, the week Indiana became #3, its highest rank ever, and its coach given a fabulous contract, was available on Peacock Premium only; likewise, Penn State -Iowa, a major game of the season, the week Coach Franklin was fired, also is available only on Premium Peacock. That must have shrunk the TV audience for both games and cheated most fans of two of the most important and interesting games of the season. Eventually we may have to have a B10 contract first, then pay a game day fee on top of that. The greed will never end, and the schools, ironically, will never have enough money.
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Yes. There are also NFL games exclusive to Peacock and a bunch of NBA games exclusive to Peacock. If you're a sports fan it's just an outlet you need access to like ESPN.
 

howeda7 said:
Yes. There are also NFL games exclusive to Peacock and a bunch of NBA games exclusive to Peacock. If you're a sports fan it's just an outlet you need access to like ESPN.
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Nah, don't need to.

Starting with the first Big 10 Basketball Tournament Semis in 1998, I had either attended or watched on TV every game until this year. This past March that string was broken, with Peacock being the streamer for the opening round. I missed the Gopher game ending the Ben Johnson tenure.

Turns out didn't need to watch it or the other games that day like I thought.

Similarly I hadn't missed an NFL Playoff game since getting a VCR in 1983. Peacock took care of that run a couple of years ago.

Turns out I didn't need to watch it. I found other ways to occupy my time, just fine.
 



IceBoxGopher said:
Has more to do with the commitment NBC has with Notre Dame. That always seems to get the network's attention above all else. The problem is NBC doesn't really have an "overflow" option for additional games like others do. FOX can play multiple games in primetime thanks to FS1, CBS can do it with CBS Sports Network, ditto with ESPN having ESPN2/ESPNU.

With NBC, though, since NBC Sports Network shut down, there's no second dedicated sports channel that it can broadcast the Big Ten game while Notre Dame gets the network station. So in this case, those other games are going to get pushed on its streaming platform.
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NBC does have a channel on most basic cable tiers called USA Network, which does have some professional wrestling I believe.

With how many different networks are showing sports these days, it would be no shocking thing to see some college football on a channel like that.

But they want to promote Peacock, the stand alone service.



I get the whole stand alone thing for people who really don't want to pay for a bundle of live channels.

But I would also really like it if having a subscription to a bundle of live channels also automatically got you access to the stand alone services.
 

Youtube TV has taken Bob’s channels off the air pending ransom negotiations. This will not impact the Gophers or much of the Big Ten this week but the end result will certainly show up in YTTV subscription fees very soon.
 


I'm doubtful about a long term pay to view deal.

All indications are that peacock and streaming services locking up sports games are paying MORE than they're making from these deals. The leagues and teams can't resist ... but I'm not sure how long that goes on.

Whatever the long term result is I don't think we've exactly seen it yet.
 



College football on television seems to always have challenges.
Back in the 80s, many Gopher games were not televised. In the 90s, I felt fortunate to live a couple miles away from the Mall of America. America Live Sports Bar seemed to always broadcast the live feed when it was only available for television audiences on tape delay.
The Big 10 Network was a game changer. It was nice to have all Gopher games available.
For the last few years Gopher games always seem to be available yet it's difficult to have the right platform.
I'd be willing to pay for standalone viewing but not sure that would work either.
I know these are first world problems yet it's annoying as hell.
 

I remember when North Star home playoff games were pay per view and away games were on local TV. Had to use a radio to listen to road games and I loved it.

I get all the networks needed to watch games due to having amazon, xfinity, verizon etc. services that include all the networks needed to watch.
 

For once, thanks to the new BG10 TV contract, I couldn't care less that ESPN is being pulled from YouTubeTV or whatever carrier I had at that time. It seems like an annual thing with some networks. No scrambling to free trials at Fubo, Sling, etc. this year.


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Ope3 said:
Peacock sucks.
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If one is just considering it in comparison to other network secondary channels, I disagree. Since its sports programming is purely streaming, one never has to wait until another game is completed to watch a game appearing there. It includes all of NBC's shows on demand. It also has a fair amount of original programming and some of it (like Poker Face and Twisted Metal) is pretty entertaining.
 

MaxyJR1 said:
I get all the networks needed to watch games due to having amazon, xfinity, verizon etc. services that include all the networks needed to watch.
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I had to read this like half a dozen times before I finally got it lol.

At first I thought you were saying the networks needed "something" and I couldn't figure out what that something was. But you're really saying, "I get the networks I need".
 

TwistingMyMelon said:
If one is just considering it in comparison to other network secondary channels, I disagree. Since its sports programming is purely streaming, one never has to wait until another game is completed to watch a game appearing there. It includes all of NBC's shows on demand. It also has a fair amount of original programming and some of it (like Poker Face and Twisted Metal) is pretty entertaining.
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When the other streamers start showing exclusive Big 10 sports events, I will surely arrive at the conclusion that they suck too.
 


GopherGrit said:
NBC does have a channel on most basic cable tiers called USA Network, which does have some professional wrestling I believe.

With how many different networks are showing sports these days, it would be no shocking thing to see some college football on a channel like that.

But they want to promote Peacock, the stand alone service.



I get the whole stand alone thing for people who really don't want to pay for a bundle of live channels.

But I would also really like it if having a subscription to a bundle of live channels also automatically got you access to the stand alone services.
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Not sure if the USA Network has broadcast any NCAA football recently, but in the past couple of years, they have started broadcasting AAC basketball from time to time.

In a related note....TNT broadcasting Big 12 football games has been new this year (I believe).
 


mnsportsgeek said:
I’d be happy to pay for everything I watch, I just don’t want to have to jump between a different app for everything. Its slow and monitoring multiple games across different networks is very cumbersome.
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I'm surprised/disappointed there hasn't been more innovation in this space. Amazon lets you order other streamers through them and you can also pay for some directly through DirecTV etc. but it's still cumbersome to flip between them etc. I think we will eventually have something.
 

To the OP, I don't think (and hope) the BG10 or any conference isn't dumb enough to place all games on premium streaming networks, especially for networks that aren't available on regular cable/satellite/streaming provider packages like Peacock. In my opinion, the BG10s move to put more games on the major free broadcast networks now is huge. It increases audience size instead of restricting audience size.

I'm guessing that the viewership from the BG10 placing more games on the big free networks Fox, NBC, CBS more then compensates for fewer viewers on the Peacock games.
 

GopherTheJugular said:
I had to read this like half a dozen times before I finally got it lol.

At first I thought you were saying the networks needed "something" and I couldn't figure out what that something was. But you're really saying, "I get the networks I need".
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I just had to read it myself to see what I was saying.
 


howeda7 said:
I'm surprised/disappointed there hasn't been more innovation in this space. Amazon lets you order other streamers through them and you can also pay for some directly through DirecTV etc. but it's still cumbersome to flip between them etc. I think we will eventually have something.
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Kinda like how we used to get up and turn a knob and adjust some rabbit ears to see something else, then viola, the cable box shows up and now you get all your channels just by pushing buttons on a remote.
 

Bigger picture than this thread... but the only things keeping me with a TV package subscription service is sports and convenient DVR functions. With the decline of ESPN, I'm damn close to reverting back to antenna and smart TV with a few a-la-carte subscriptions like Netflix, Prime, Paramount etc. Get me a reasonably priced smart TV that has a nice built-in DVR function and I'm out.
 



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