Northwestern State worst Gophers' opponent since... ?

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LeftofThaDial said:
Northwestern St started the season ranked 260/265 in the Sagarin FBS/FCS rankings, Gophers 31st, NDSU 56th, St Thomas 221 for reference. Pretty safe to say this is about the weakest opponent we could possibly have.
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Well, by your own information, there are 5 worse teams we could have played. But, I agree that they are plenty bad enough to be the answer to the question posted above.
 


A_Slab_of_Bacon said:
In the last few days I think I re-discovered that Northwestern State is in Louisiana ... 4+ times.
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IceBoxGopher said:
Dude, for real. I keep forgetting if they're Louisiana or Mississippi.
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Just make sure you don't confuse Nachitoches, LA with Nacogdoches, TX because you might find yourself at Stephen F. Austin, not Northwestern St. That would be really embarrassing.
 




kisarazu said:


10:44 was not a great moment for Alcorn St.

Northwestern State's offense mustered 14 points, 85 passing yards, and 185 rushing yards.

My opinion, this Saturday Northwestern State is going to struggle to get 100 yards. This could be a record-breaking defensive game. We'll see how the defensive backups do in the second half.
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I heard a Christopher Walley for Alcorn State. Makes me wonder if he is somehow related to "our" Justin Walley. Christopher is from Mississippi as well, but a different town.
 



I dunno, that 2018 New Mexico State team was pretty bad. They beat Librerty the first time they played them (it was Liberty's first year in the FBS - that's a division name that hasn't aged well) and lost when they played a second time later in the year, beat a one win UTEP, and Alcorn State and FCS team, that had a winning record.
 



RememberMurray said:
That's ridiculous. Dig a little deeper before you post. Google is your friend.

Oh, and point spreads don't determine how good or bad a team is. Something to consider.
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Seriously? Are you trying to make an argument that BG team was good? We were the only FBS win in a 14 game streak of losses spanning the end of 2019, 2020, and 2021.....

and you're right, we were a 31 point favorite

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caliGopher said:
Seriously? Are you trying to make an argument that BG team was good? We were the only FBS win in a 14 game streak of losses spanning the end of 2019, 2020, and 2021.....

and you're right, we were a 31 point favorite

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No, I'm not trying to make an argument that Bowling Green was good.

Do you decide the better team and worse team by point spreads? If so, Joe Namath and the '68 Jets and Len Dawson and the '69 Chiefs would like to have a word.
 

RememberMurray said:
No, I'm not trying to make an argument that Bowling Green was good.

Do you decide the better team and worse team by point spreads? If so, Joe Namath and the '68 Jets and Len Dawson and the '69 Chiefs would like to have a word.
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So perhaps there have been some technical data element improvements in the past 55+ years?

Additionally Super Bowls III & IV were contested between 2 different leagues that has a grand total of 2 prior contests between the AFL & NFL. Both of those were blowouts with the NFL on top. Zero regular season games.

On the the other hand the Big 10 generally tears the MAC apart, though the Gophers being upended by MAC-daddies is nothing new.

See Ohio U. See Toledo. See Northern Illinois. See Bowling Green previously for that matter. All losses during my Season Ticket tenure.
 
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LeftofThaDial said:
Northwestern St started the season ranked 260/265 in the Sagarin FBS/FCS rankings, Gophers 31st, NDSU 56th, St Thomas 221 for reference. Pretty safe to say this is about the weakest opponent we could possibly have.
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I can't believe the Tommies would actually be better than any full scholarship program regardless of Sagarin or Massey. It would be really tough to be that bad.
 



Panthadad2 said:
I can't believe the Tommies would actually be better than any full scholarship program regardless of Sagarin or Massey. It would be really tough to be that bad.
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St. Thomas would be two score favorites against this team, and St. Thomas is horrible. Mankato would walk this team.
 


Panthadad2 said:
I can't believe the Tommies would actually be better than any full scholarship program regardless of Sagarin or Massey. It would be really tough to be that bad.
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Multiple non scholarship teams won games vs scholarship teams week 1
 

Ope3 said:
So perhaps there have been some technical data element improvements in the past 55+ years?

Additionally Super Bowls III & IV were contested between 2 different leagues that has a grand total of 2 prior contests between the AFL & NFL. Both of those were blowouts with the NFL on top. Zero regular season games.

On the the other hand the Big 10 generally tears the MAC apart, though the Gophers being upended by MAC-daddies is nothing new.

See Ohio U. See Toledo. See Northern Iowa. See Bowling Green previously for that matter. All losses during my Season Ticket tenure.
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Northern Iowa is not in the MAC (I think you meant Northern Illinois) and MAC teams have a history of beating all of B1G teams consistently over the years, if not regularly. Some more than others.

Back in the day, the MAC was considered the "cradle of coaches" as many B1G coaches were hired from the MAC (Notre Dame had a prominent one, too) that went on to be coaching legends.

MAC coaches still get hired regularly but it's not the pipeline of sustained success it once was.

Fleck is one of the more recent successful college coaches out if the MAC with the likes of Brian Kelly, Lance Leipild, and Matt Campbell.

Urban Meyer is probably the most recent coach out of the MAC, that lives up to the mantle that produced coaches like Bo, Woody, and Ara.
 
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caliGopher said:
Northern Iowa is not in the MAC (I think you meant Northern Illinois) and MAC teams have a history of beating all of B1G teams consistently over the years, if not regularly. Some more than others.

Back in the day, the MAC was considered the "cradle of coaches" as many B1G coaches were hired from the MAC (Notre Dame had a prominent one, too) that went on to be coaching legends.

MAC coaches still get hired regularly but it's not the pipeline of sustained success it once was.

Fleck is one of the more successful college coaches out if the MAC with the likes of Brian Kelly, Lance Leipild, and Matt Campbell.

Urban Meyer is probably the most recent coach out of the MAC, that lives up to the mantle that produced coaches like Bo, Woody, and Ara.
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Yes, I did mean the Jerry Kill lead Northern Illinois squad. I have made the update. Thanks for pointing it out.
 

caliGopher said:
Seriously? Are you trying to make an argument that BG team was good? We were the only FBS win in a 14 game streak of losses spanning the end of 2019, 2020, and 2021.....

and you're right, we were a 31 point favorite

www.cbssports.com

Minnesota vs. Bowling Green odds, line: 2021 college football picks, Week 4 predictions from proven model

SportsLine's model just revealed its college football picks for Bowling Green vs. Minnesota
www.cbssports.com www.cbssports.com
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BG was a good squad, at least the day they beat our Gophers. I saw them beat the "Striped Rats" that day. They were physical and played well. Afterall, the term "good" is relative and may depend on one's definition and perspective. But, BG was a "good" team the day they stifled our Gophers.
 

Ope3 said:
So perhaps there have been some technical data element improvements in the past 55+ years?

Additionally Super Bowls III & IV were contested between 2 different leagues that has a grand total of 2 prior contests between the AFL & NFL. Both of those were blowouts with the NFL on top. Zero regular season games.

On the the other hand the Big 10 generally tears the MAC apart, though the Gophers being upended by MAC-daddies is nothing new.

See Ohio U. See Toledo. See Northern Illinois. See Bowling Green previously for that matter. All losses during my Season Ticket tenure.
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I'm so sorry. Kudos to you for hanging in there, and bearing the repeated trauma so courageously and so well.
 

Eastside Forever said:
BG was a good squad, at least the day they beat our Gophers. I saw them beat the "Striped Rats" that day. They were physical and played well. Afterall, the term "good" is relative and may depend on one's definition and perspective. But, BG was a "good" team the day they stifled our Gophers.
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The "Striped Rats"?

Wow.

Are you Reusse's nephew or something?
 

Eastside Forever said:
BG was a good squad, at least the day they beat our Gophers. I saw them beat the "Striped Rats" that day. They were physical and played well. Afterall, the term "good" is relative and may depend on one's definition and perspective. But, BG was a "good" team the day they stifled our Gophers.
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No, BG was not good.

The Gophers were the only FBS team they beat that had a winning record (Murray State had a winning record in the FCS at 6-5) and managed a loss to 2-10 Akron. We finished 6-3 in the B1G and 9-4 overall.

There is zero excuse for the poor game plan, poor in game coaching decisions, and poor execution by the team that day. Bowling Green's 95th ranked scoring defense held us to 1/3 of their average for the season.
 


caliGopher said:
No, BG was not good.

The Gophers were the only FBS team they beat that had a winning record (Murray State had a winning record in the FCS at 6-5) and managed a loss to 2-10 Akron. We finished 6-3 in the B1G and 9-4 overall.

There is zero excuse for the poor game plan, poor in game coaching decisions, and poor execution by the team that day. Bowling Green's 95th ranked scoring defense held us to 1/3 of their average for the season.
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Yup, that was a bad bad bad loss. However, I will also say after watching Northwestern State that that Bowling Green team would boat race them.
 
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caliGopher said:
No, BG was not good.

The Gophers were the only FBS team they beat that had a winning record (Murray State had a winning record in the FCS at 6-5) and managed a loss to 2-10 Akron. We finished 6-3 in the B1G and 9-4 overall.

There is zero excuse for the poor game plan, poor in game coaching decisions, and poor execution by the team that day. Bowling Green's 95th ranked scoring defense held us to 1/3 of their average for the season.
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They were good that day.
 

RememberMurray said:
No, I'm not trying to make an argument that Bowling Green was good.

Do you decide the better team and worse team by point spreads? If so, Joe Namath and the '68 Jets and Len Dawson and the '69 Chiefs would like to have a word.
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Point spreads are somewhat meaningless and can be very misleading.
 

This is the worst team to come into the Bank since it opened in 2009. Yet any score between 70-0 and 36-14 seems possible given the way Fleck often (but not always) plays these non conference games, and the way some supposedly overmatched opponents have provided difficult for Fleck's teams.
 




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