Utah to B1G?

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nitramnaed said:
I think the B1G should bring in both Arizona schools. Phx is the 12th largest market and at the same time lock down the whole state. The way the higher ed system is run in Arizona you aren’t going to just take one school anyway. Both are now AAU schools and probably from a financial standpoint the best pick unless you could poach Texas A & M and Texas which I don’t see happening.
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Arizona State has hockey +++++.
 


nitramnaed said:
I think the B1G should bring in both Arizona schools. Phx is the 12th largest market and at the same time lock down the whole state. The way the higher ed system is run in Arizona you aren’t going to just take one school anyway. Both are now AAU schools and probably from a financial standpoint the best pick unless you could poach Texas A & M and Texas which I don’t see happening.
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Arizona State makes more sense to me than Utah, for whatever that's worth.
 

GopherGrit said:
Arizona State makes more sense to me than Utah, for whatever that's worth.
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Agree.

I think of the west/southwest non SEC poaches I would rank them:
Arizona state
Colorado
Utah
Arizona (they may rank lower if you already have ASU)
Stanford
Cal
Kansas
Other (WSU, ok state, OR State, IA st, Kansas st, Houston, TCU, Baylor)
 

WoodburyTim said:
I always wonder if just the size of the market is the only thing considered or how much the market cares about the teams in question. Bay Area is a big market but the fans in Murfreesboro were more passionate about M. TN State than the Cal fans were when we went to Berkeley.
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The issue is how many BT fans are you going to find in Tennessee compared to N Cali.
 





Stanford is a premier institution with deep pockets and we should be trying to be associated with them anyway possible. Will also help force Notre Dame into the fold. I don't think expanding in the south/southwest is a great idea. I think in the long term those markets will deteriorate.

My B1G addition wish list (in descending order of value)
Notre Dame
Stanford
Cal
Colorado
UNC
Duke
Boston College
Pitt
Utah
Syracuse
BYU
Missouri
Kansas
Iowa State
Wyoming
Creighton
 





TurfGopher said:
Stanford is a premier institution with deep pockets and we should be trying to be associated with them anyway possible. Will also help force Notre Dame into the fold. I don't think expanding in the south/southwest is a great idea. I think in the long term those markets will deteriorate.

My B1G addition wish list (in descending order of value)
Notre Dame
Stanford
Cal
Colorado
UNC
Duke
Boston College
Pitt
Utah
Syracuse
BYU
Missouri
Kansas
Iowa State
Wyoming
Creighton
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I want to add my favorite CF team, Martin Luther College in New Ulm... conferences are going to become so big that we don't have conferences anymore.
 




TurfGopher said:
Stanford is a premier institution with deep pockets and we should be trying to be associated with them anyway possible. Will also help force Notre Dame into the fold. I don't think expanding in the south/southwest is a great idea. I think in the long term those markets will deteriorate.

My B1G addition wish list (in descending order of value)
Notre Dame
Stanford
Cal
Colorado
UNC
Duke
Boston College
Pitt
Utah
Syracuse
BYU
Missouri
Kansas
Iowa State
Wyoming
Creighton
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Let me get this straight - we shouldn't add growing markets because they are deteriorating? We are in a deteriorating market along with the rust belt portion of the big ten.
 

GopherGrit said:
Arizona State makes more sense to me than Utah, for whatever that's worth.
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Potential issue with ASU is that Arizona and ASU have the same BoR. It might be difficult to split them, though that's what folks said about UCLA and Cal.

Otherwise it's a great big state school in a big city with a whole bunch of Midwest retirees already in the area. AAU, they have decent hockey and wrestling programs. Football made the playoffs. Pretty big research school that recently announced it's starting its own medical school (previously joint-affiliated with Mayo in Scottsdale). It generally fits the profile.
 

MinnySunDevil said:
Potential issue with ASU is that Arizona and ASU have the same BoR. It might be difficult to split them, though that's what folks said about UCLA and Cal.

Otherwise it's a great big state school in a big city with a whole bunch of Midwest retirees already in the area. AAU, they have decent hockey and wrestling programs. Football made the playoffs. Pretty big research school that recently announced it's starting its own medical school (previously joint-affiliated with Mayo in Scottsdale). It generally fits the profile.
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Definitely one of them is in the top 3-4 in the west of the Mississippi candidates
Possibly both of them
 

MinnySunDevil said:
Potential issue with ASU is that Arizona and ASU have the same BoR. It might be difficult to split them, though that's what folks said about UCLA and Cal.

Otherwise it's a great big state school in a big city with a whole bunch of Midwest retirees already in the area. AAU, they have decent hockey and wrestling programs. Football made the playoffs. Pretty big research school that recently announced it's starting its own medical school (previously joint-affiliated with Mayo in Scottsdale). It generally fits the profile.
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Washington and Oregon also were able to split off from their state's respective land-grant Ag schools.

Interesting (to me at least) is that ASU is not a land-grant Ag school. It would be equivalent to something like Illinois State University, in that state. But I guess simply by different circumstances, it grew to be very large and very high research. Guessing one of the few such situations to be able to start their own medical school.
 

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