Minnesota quarterback Zach Pyron has entered the transfer portal as a grad transfer, @On3sports has learned.

Well said. Maybe I’m getting it mixed up but weren’t both Knuth and Clark here at the same time as AK8?
I think they were, but I don’t think they left because AK was declared the promised son or anything. They saw AK get the first crack when Morgan went out and they predicted like all of us did that he would be the starter the following year.
 

I’ve seen a few people say even Shikenjanski passed him. At the very I was hoping for some wildcat packages with Pyron. I hope the other guys passing him means they’ve just been very good and not necessarily that Pyron was bad.
 

I’ve seen a few people say even Shikenjanski passed him. At the very I was hoping for some wildcat packages with Pyron. I hope the other guys passing him means they’ve just been very good and not necessarily that Pyron was bad.
Pyron's GT stats aren't good. Not surprised he didn't light it up here.
 

I don't consider "anointing" to mean that you don't play backups. I think of "anoint" as someone being handed a position without earning it - like PJ has in his head who is going to be the starter and nothing can change his mind.

With ZA and Morgan, PJ clearly changed his mind. ZA won the job in 2018 and did not win it back from Morgan in 2019. It wasn't like Morgan lit the world on fire to finish 2018. Their stats were really similar. It was ZA's team and it became Morgan's team.I think it's pretty clear that PJ changed his mind on these two.

As for Kramer, I can't think of a single time where he should have been the starter. I would have been 100% cool with him getting run the year AK struggled.

I think there is a good argument AK was anointed but the issue (IMO) was more that we didn't bring in realistic competition for him.

As far as Brosmer, do we still consider someone to be anointed if they were really good? Isn't it more likely PJ was just right about him?
I think we are mostly in agreement ... just maybe talking about interpretations of words.
But and i could be mis remembering...I thought ZA and Morgan were competing preseason and maybe ZA was leading and then he broke his foot/ankle? So, Morgan won by default and then once somebody starts playing...is my real point....they never come out unless they physically can't play. (ZA injuries and Morgan concussions.)

Agree competition was weak for AK.
My thought on Brosmer was only this...if Lindsay proves he's a far superior QB this year to Brosmer...PJ wasn't allowing any competition between them. He picks a guy and rides him.
 

I’ve seen a few people say even Shikenjanski passed him. At the very I was hoping for some wildcat packages with Pyron. I hope the other guys passing him means they’ve just been very good and not necessarily that Pyron was bad.
Maybe Koi Perich passed him on the wildcat packages.
 


I’ve seen a few people say even Shikenjanski passed him. At the very I was hoping for some wildcat packages with Pyron. I hope the other guys passing him means they’ve just been very good and not necessarily that Pyron was bad.
I think Wittke might be a better athlete than Pyron if they want to feature a wildcat package.
 

If it's not articulated on Gopherhole, it never happened :).
I was born once, had an adventurous and fulfilling life, found a great wife, had kids and a grandchild, plus dogs, cats and an even a bird. Now I’m a bit older, happy and feeling good that it all happened because I posted it on GopherHole!
 

For the record I was an AK skeptic from the start.... So not everyone thought he'd be excellent. I agree he was obviously going to be the starter but that was because we had nothing behind him.
Fair enough. 99% did. 😂
 

Zach Pyron played the current system perfectly. He took a shot at winning the starting job at a high visibility P2 school and when he saw it wasn’t going to happen went G5. He obviously wants to start. That’s the problem with the current two portal window system.

Gophers did their best. Got legit competition for the QB position with no proven starter. You can’t force the guy to stay here as a backup when he loses the starting job.
 



Zach Pyron played the current system perfectly. He took a shot at winning the starting job at a high visibility P2 school and when he saw it wasn’t going to happen went G5. He obviously wants to start. That’s the problem with the current two portal window system.

Gophers did their best. Got legit competition for the QB position with no proven starter. You can’t force the guy to stay here as a backup when he loses the starting job.
Seems about right. Spring ball for GT has shown they have a solid starter and Pyron read that correctly at the end of last season in coming here.

He may have to lower his goals if his time at Minnesota is an indicator.

The Portal may giveth a new start but it doth not provide a guarantee. That comes from other things. Not sure actual perfomance on the field is his strongest suit against good competition.
 

I wonder if he collected any NIL money in his short couple of months stint as a Gopher. Does anyone know how that works?
 


Another example, Ryan Browne transfers from Purdue to NC, things get too tough for him so transfers right back to Purdue.

https://www.espn.com/college-footba...rowne-transferring-north-carolina-back-purdue

We've all seen this many times now. How soon can they reduce the portal window to just one? Maybe we never get the forced one year sitting back, but going to just one window per year seems like a good compromise. Apologies, I know this his been discussed extensively on this board. I just forget what the logical consensus result was. Well, I'm sure there was no consensus. Is anyone smart enough to lay out the options maybe in a poll? I am not. For example:

MOST LIKELY OUTCOME:

a) Sit one year (won't happen so probably not even worth including)
b) Keep two transfer windows
c) Spring transfer window only
d) Winter transfer window only
e) Collective bargaining and contracts (not mutually exclusive with any of the above so maybe this is part of another multiple choice list)

Maybe adding a timeframe would be helpful like within the next two years. Some of the best changes might take more time, but it would be nice to see what can be done relatively quickly.

Again, many of you would be better at putting together a list than me.
 



Check out the open practice April 15 thread. Someone commented on it there.

You don't have to be an asshole all the time. Welcome to ignore.
Welcome to the club. I have been willfully ignoring him for years.
 
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I hear that a lot but I don't know how true it is.

Annexstad won QB1 in the battle with Morgan and then Morgan overtook the spot.
Morgan ended up handing the reigns to Kaliakmanis who was the replaced by Brosmer.

He seems as willing as most coaches to make a move at the position.

I cannot think of a situation where there was a realistic/better option on the bench that didn't come in.
Year 1 was rough, but PJ picked Rhoda to start the season. After the first three games, Rhoda went to shit, but Fleck rode him for another nearly 3 games of putrid big ten play before putting in Croft in the MSU game. He then did not take Croft out of the starting role, even though he should have due to injury in multiple games. Rhoda would not have been much worse, if not an improvement.

Year 2 Annexstad won the QB1 role and PJ stayed with it, even when he was so injured he could barely play, until he finally HAD to pull him and made Morgan QB1.

Annextad got hurt before the 2019 season and Morgan kept the starting job through the offseason. 2019 marked the first season PJ actually trusted QB1 and the play calling (after the first three games). We were a dynamic office. There were times in 2019 that a backup could have gotten time in spot duty at the end of games, Illinois, Nebraska, Rutgers and Maryland games, all not close in the 4th quarter showed only a handful of minutes and 4 passes attempted by Kramer and Clark when some garbage time could have helped the team (fortunately Morgan stayed relatively healthy the whole season). If Morgan had gotten hurt in the fourth quarter of a Maryland game that was over at the end of the 3 Quarter (halftime really), the last four games would have been worse than they were. Why not but the back up QB in at a time where it makes sense for the back up QB to come in. That has rarely happened under Fleck, including when Croft and Annextad were clearly injured.

Morgan digressed from 2019 - 2023, and PJ lost trust in him (as evidenced by the play calling), but never gave anyone else a serious chance until.....Morgan got hurt enough that he couldn't play, and Kaliakmanis was forced into action. There's a theme here.

Then Kaliakmanis was given the reins in 2023. Despite PJ's pre-season hype, he clearly was not good and got worse as the season progressed...so true to form, PJ never gave another quarterback a chance, even in the face of poor performance after poor performance. At some point, to quote the old guy who said this piece of fish was good enough for Jehovah himself in Life of Brian "How could it get any worse?" Maybe under a different set of circumstances, we would have been better prepared for 2024, or maybe even kept one backup QB on the roster?

In 2024, Fleck caught lightning in a bottle with Brosmer, who won over the staff in a shockingly short period of time. He gained the trust of the OCs relatively early, and our offense was watchable, for the first time since 2019. Still, in a few games we could have/should have gotten some reps for Lindsay late in games, we did not, leaving Brosmer in. Those Q4 snaps against Rhode Island and Nevada were crucial for....absolutely nothing for Brosmer. The Maryland Game was another game where you might find a way to work your backup QB, projected starter for next year, into the game. Did we? Why would we do that? PJ has his guy and consistently sticks with him regardless of the situation. Including at the end of a horrible bowl game against what amounted to a very solid High School football team. Why not give Lindsay a chance to play? The game was close enough that it could have been at least a little meaningful for Lindsay and a way to whet the fans appetite for 2025, since it has been clear all along that Lindsay was his guy for 2025.
 

Year 1 was rough, but PJ picked Rhoda to start the season. After the first three games, Rhoda went to shit, but Fleck rode him for another nearly 3 games of putrid big ten play before putting in Croft in the MSU game. He then did not take Croft out of the starting role, even though he should have due to injury in multiple games. Rhoda would not have been much worse, if not an improvement.

Year 2 Annexstad won the QB1 role and PJ stayed with it, even when he was so injured he could barely play, until he finally HAD to pull him and made Morgan QB1.

Annextad got hurt before the 2019 season and Morgan kept the starting job through the offseason. 2019 marked the first season PJ actually trusted QB1 and the play calling (after the first three games). We were a dynamic office. There were times in 2019 that a backup could have gotten time in spot duty at the end of games, Illinois, Nebraska, Rutgers and Maryland games, all not close in the 4th quarter showed only a handful of minutes and 4 passes attempted by Kramer and Clark when some garbage time could have helped the team (fortunately Morgan stayed relatively healthy the whole season). If Morgan had gotten hurt in the fourth quarter of a Maryland game that was over at the end of the 3 Quarter (halftime really), the last four games would have been worse than they were. Why not but the back up QB in at a time where it makes sense for the back up QB to come in. That has rarely happened under Fleck, including when Croft and Annextad were clearly injured.

Morgan digressed from 2019 - 2023, and PJ lost trust in him (as evidenced by the play calling), but never gave anyone else a serious chance until.....Morgan got hurt enough that he couldn't play, and Kaliakmanis was forced into action. There's a theme here.

Then Kaliakmanis was given the reins in 2023. Despite PJ's pre-season hype, he clearly was not good and got worse as the season progressed...so true to form, PJ never gave another quarterback a chance, even in the face of poor performance after poor performance. At some point, to quote the old guy who said this piece of fish was good enough for Jehovah himself in Life of Brian "How could it get any worse?" Maybe under a different set of circumstances, we would have been better prepared for 2024, or maybe even kept one backup QB on the roster?

In 2024, Fleck caught lightning in a bottle with Brosmer, who won over the staff in a shockingly short period of time. He gained the trust of the OCs relatively early, and our offense was watchable, for the first time since 2019. Still, in a few games we could have/should have gotten some reps for Lindsay late in games, we did not, leaving Brosmer in. Those Q4 snaps against Rhode Island and Nevada were crucial for....absolutely nothing for Brosmer. The Maryland Game was another game where you might find a way to work your backup QB, projected starter for next year, into the game. Did we? Why would we do that? PJ has his guy and consistently sticks with him regardless of the situation. Including at the end of a horrible bowl game against what amounted to a very solid High School football team. Why not give Lindsay a chance to play? The game was close enough that it could have been at least a little meaningful for Lindsay and a way to whet the fans appetite for 2025, since it has been clear all along that Lindsay was his guy for 2025.

They wanted to preserve Lindsey’s redshirt.
 




Year 1 was rough, but PJ picked Rhoda to start the season. After the first three games, Rhoda went to shit, but Fleck rode him for another nearly 3 games of putrid big ten play before putting in Croft in the MSU game. He then did not take Croft out of the starting role, even though he should have due to injury in multiple games. Rhoda would not have been much worse, if not an improvement.

Year 2 Annexstad won the QB1 role and PJ stayed with it, even when he was so injured he could barely play, until he finally HAD to pull him and made Morgan QB1.

Annextad got hurt before the 2019 season and Morgan kept the starting job through the offseason. 2019 marked the first season PJ actually trusted QB1 and the play calling (after the first three games). We were a dynamic office. There were times in 2019 that a backup could have gotten time in spot duty at the end of games, Illinois, Nebraska, Rutgers and Maryland games, all not close in the 4th quarter showed only a handful of minutes and 4 passes attempted by Kramer and Clark when some garbage time could have helped the team (fortunately Morgan stayed relatively healthy the whole season). If Morgan had gotten hurt in the fourth quarter of a Maryland game that was over at the end of the 3 Quarter (halftime really), the last four games would have been worse than they were. Why not but the back up QB in at a time where it makes sense for the back up QB to come in. That has rarely happened under Fleck, including when Croft and Annextad were clearly injured.

Morgan digressed from 2019 - 2023, and PJ lost trust in him (as evidenced by the play calling), but never gave anyone else a serious chance until.....Morgan got hurt enough that he couldn't play, and Kaliakmanis was forced into action. There's a theme here.

Then Kaliakmanis was given the reins in 2023. Despite PJ's pre-season hype, he clearly was not good and got worse as the season progressed...so true to form, PJ never gave another quarterback a chance, even in the face of poor performance after poor performance. At some point, to quote the old guy who said this piece of fish was good enough for Jehovah himself in Life of Brian "How could it get any worse?" Maybe under a different set of circumstances, we would have been better prepared for 2024, or maybe even kept one backup QB on the roster?

In 2024, Fleck caught lightning in a bottle with Brosmer, who won over the staff in a shockingly short period of time. He gained the trust of the OCs relatively early, and our offense was watchable, for the first time since 2019. Still, in a few games we could have/should have gotten some reps for Lindsay late in games, we did not, leaving Brosmer in. Those Q4 snaps against Rhode Island and Nevada were crucial for....absolutely nothing for Brosmer. The Maryland Game was another game where you might find a way to work your backup QB, projected starter for next year, into the game. Did we? Why would we do that? PJ has his guy and consistently sticks with him regardless of the situation. Including at the end of a horrible bowl game against what amounted to a very solid High School football team. Why not give Lindsay a chance to play? The game was close enough that it could have been at least a little meaningful for Lindsay and a way to whet the fans appetite for 2025, since it has been clear all along that Lindsay was his guy for 2025.
I do think Fleck takes too long to pull starters in blow outs at times. Not that I think a little more garbage time really makes the back ups develop much more, but I do get annoyed at risking injury to starters.
 

Stumbled across this article this morning...


Maybe this will be the right fit...

While at it, I asked the google AI a question on South Alabama players to the NFL and came up with this regarding developmental prospects...

Yes, there are South Alabama football players currently in the NFL. Some notable examples include quarterback Carter Bradley, who signed with the Las Vegas Raiders, linebacker Trey Kizer, who signed with the Jacksonville Jaguars, and tight end Lincoln Sefcik, who signed with the New York Jets. Additionally, Darrell Luter Jr. was drafted by the San Francisco 49ers in the 2024 NFL draft, and Jalen Tolbert was drafted by the Dallas Cowboys in 2022.

Hope it works out for him. Ski U Lindsay!
 





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