2024-25 Wild Season

I always think of the 1980 Olympic team. Anything can happen

There's something to be said for matchups. And I could not care less that VGK went 3-0 against the Wild in the regular season. I would bet anything that the rosters for every one of those games was completely different than what we'll see in this series.
 

I always think of the 1980 Olympic team. Anything can happen
Team USA only had to beat Team CCCP in a Best of 1 as part of the Medal Round (and back it up against the Finns 2 days later).

But still lots of NHL Top Seeds start making Tee Times by early May.
 

Bring on Vegas I guess. I'll give them a 10% chance and that's being generous but hey stranger things have happened
Ok, I'll take the wild at +500 for the series.
How much?
😎
 


There's something to be said for matchups. And I could not care less that VGK went 3-0 against the Wild in the regular season. I would bet anything that the rosters for every one of those games was completely different than what we'll see in this series.
Considering this is the first time the entire team has been healthy since November 11th I would think you are correct.
 


Considering this is the first time the entire team has been healthy since November 11th I would think you are correct.

Good news for both teams!! Sunday will be the healthiest Vegas has been all season. I think I heard during the broadcast last night they have played 15 games this season with their full starting line rushes.
 

Some numbers I found in one article:

Record
Vegas: 49-22-10, 108 points (3rd)
Minnesota: 45-30-7, 97 points (12th)

Goals For
Vegas: 274, 3.34 per game (5th)
Minnesota: 225, 2.74 per game (25th)

Goals Against
Vegas: 214, 2.61 per game (3rd)
Minnesota: 236, 2.88 per game (15th)

Shots For
Vegas: 2480, 30.3 per game (4th)
Minnesota: 2263, 27.6 per game (23rd)

Shots Against
Vegas: 2140, 26.1 per game (4th)
Minnesota: 2427, 29.6 per game (26th)

Save Percentage
Minnesota: .903 (6th)
Vegas: .900 (9th)

Power Play
Vegas: 29.12% (2nd)
Minnesota: 21.08% (19th)

Penalty Kill
Vegas: 76.51% (24th)
Minnesota: 72.28% (30th)

5-on-5 Shot Share (Corsi)
Vegas: 51.2%% (9th)
Minnesota: 47.8% (26th)

5-on-5 Goal Share (GF%)
Vegas: 54.3%% (7th)
Minnesota: 48.8% (19th)

5-on-5 Expected Goal Share (xGF%)
Vegas: 52.5% (6th)
Minnesota: 49.4% (20th)

5-on-5 – High Danger Shooting Percentage (HDSH%)
Vegas: 19.6% (9th)
Minnesota: 14.5% (32nd)
 






The Athletic polled one NHL GM and 8-9 other high-ranking team executives on all of the NHL playoff teams. Only Montreal was rated lower:

"We expected the Wild to be rated as longshots, but we were still a little surprised to see them pick up Tier 5 votes from seven of our nine executives. We thought there might be a bit more optimism surrounding Minnesota with the return of Kirill Kaprizov, Joel Eriksson-Ek and the potential X-factor that Zeev Buium could be, but the panel believes that the organization is headed for another first-round defeat.

Executive 2: “Minnesota’s a good team, they’re just not good enough to be the best team (in a playoff series). I don’t think they’re at the same level as Vegas.”

Executive 1: “They’ll be done early. I think they’re flawed. I think their offense is only driven by a handful of guys. I don’t think they’re that deep. They’ve gotten steadily worse since the season’s gone on.”
 


First period observations. We are getting playoff officiating. The standard of officiating tonight is that if it's not a scoring chance, it's not a penalty. Both teams are up to the physical challenge. This will be a fun series, but can Minnesota keep this up for ~15+ periods?
 



With 1:30 to play and the goalie pulled HOW THE FUCK DO YOU HAVE BUIUM ON THE ICE AND FABER ON THE BENCH??!?!?!!!?! That’s insanity!!!!
 


With 1:30 to play and the goalie pulled HOW THE FUCK DO YOU HAVE BUIUM ON THE ICE AND FABER ON THE BENCH??!?!?!!!?! That’s insanity!!!!
because buium's offensive upside as compared to faber is larger? he made a rookie mistake but there's also no debating he is more dynamic with the puck rushing and on zone entries. This is also part of why I really wish they'd given him game 82 rather than throw him into game 1 where it already is much tighter checking/high contested and that added to adjusting to the game speed differential.

our unwillingness to pull Gus earlier (after the penalty) than we got him out was also quite confusing as effectively it gave us no further chances.

Vegas is a better, deeper team. KK-Boldy are going to have to carry us offensively and I don't know if we're going to be able to expect a pair nightly

Refs swallowing whistles will likely play to our advantage over the series as our PK is terrible.
 

With 1:30 to play and the goalie pulled HOW THE FUCK DO YOU HAVE BUIUM ON THE ICE AND FABER ON THE BENCH??!?!?!!!?! That’s insanity!!!!
Exactly. The kid made some glaring mistakes during the game and to have him out there at the end of the game was asinine. Don't get it
 

because buium's offensive upside as compared to faber is larger? he made a rookie mistake but there's also no debating he is more dynamic with the puck rushing and on zone entries. This is also part of why I really wish they'd given him game 82 rather than throw him into game 1 where it already is much tighter checking/high contested and that added to adjusting to the game speed differential.

our unwillingness to pull Gus earlier (after the penalty) than we got him out was also quite confusing as effectively it gave us no further chances.

Vegas is a better, deeper team. KK-Boldy are going to have to carry us offensively and I don't know if we're going to be able to expect a pair nightly

Refs swallowing whistles will likely play to our advantage over the series as our PK is terrible.
Vegas is a wagon. Wild have a ways to go yet to be true Cup contenders. See what kind of summer Guerin has as far as making any significant changes now that those 2 horrible contracts are off the books
 

because buium's offensive upside as compared to faber is larger? he made a rookie mistake but there's also no debating he is more dynamic with the puck rushing and on zone entries.
No debating? Brock Faber is clearly the most dynamic, offensive defenseman we have. He’s proven it over the past year +. He’s also been in the system, been on the ice IN THE NHL with those players, on power plays, on 6-on-5s. He wouldn’t have turned the puck over on a careless, weak pass with a minute remaining. No chance. He also inherently knows where to be and where others will be and overall what the strategy is. Buium has studied the playbook.

I was pissed he was playing on PP1 with zero experience. Ahead of Faber on 6-on-5?? I was screaming at my TV during the timeout that if 8 didn’t sit down and Faber get on the ice, it was a horrible move.
This is also part of why I really wish they'd given him game 82 rather than throw him into game 1 where it already is much tighter checking/high contested and that added to adjusting to the game speed differential.
I agree. It makes zero sense to me they sat him in game 82.

None of this is Buium’s fault. I’m sure he will be a great player - maybe better than Faber. But that was the wrong time to experiment.
 

Exactly. The kid made some glaring mistakes during the game and to have him out there at the end of the game was asinine. Don't get it
100%. Not his fault. He’s young. He’s new. He’s talented. But Jesus coach, choose your spots!!!
 

No debating? Brock Faber is clearly the most dynamic, offensive defenseman we have. He’s proven it over the past year +. He’s also been in the system, been on the ice IN THE NHL with those players, on power plays, on 6-on-5s. He wouldn’t have turned the puck over on a careless, weak pass with a minute remaining. No chance. He also inherently knows where to be and where others will be and overall what the strategy is. Buium has studied the playbook.

I was pissed he was playing on PP1 with zero experience. Ahead of Faber on 6-on-5?? I was screaming at my TV during the timeout that if 8 didn’t sit down and Faber get on the ice, it was a horrible move.

I agree. It makes zero sense to me they sat him in game 82.

None of this is Buium’s fault. I’m sure he will be a great player - maybe better than Faber. But that was the wrong time to experiment.
he has 12 power play points all year, despite playing as much PP as he did all year. He's a good puck mover but is hyper conservative (same thing we saw while he played with the Gophs and is why he wasn't the PP QB there either).

These are the moments they took him for. In all honesty, they're not going to win the cup this year. There are too many holes and too little depth. Take your seasoning.

Buium, to me and apparently to the rest of the Wild brass, is a better offensive defenseman than Faber. He's much worse than Faber defensively, though he's 3 years younger.

The Boldy interview postgame tells you all you need to know about why they put him in that spot.

Sitting him in game 82 the far bigger mistake to me than having him out there at the end last night.
 

Vegas is a wagon. Wild have a ways to go yet to be true Cup contenders. See what kind of summer Guerin has as far as making any significant changes now that those 2 horrible contracts are off the books
yeah i would've rather we missed the playoffs this year. pain is all these older guys who are doing minimal contributing up front (Zuccy, Foligno, Hartman, Gaudreau) will be another year older, as will Brodin and Spurgeon. Hopefully we see BG be able to make some moves but they'll have quite a bit of space, though the cost per player is going to go up due to the salary cap going up. very interesting offseason coming up
 

yeah i would've rather we missed the playoffs this year. pain is all these older guys who are doing minimal contributing up front (Zuccy, Foligno, Hartman, Gaudreau) will be another year older, as will Brodin and Spurgeon. Hopefully we see BG be able to make some moves but they'll have quite a bit of space, though the cost per player is going to go up due to the salary cap going up. very interesting offseason coming up
We are projected to have just shy of $21M in cap space and there are 18 other teams projected to have more. We'll need to spend a chunk on re-signing KK.
 

We are projected to have just shy of $21M in cap space and there are 18 other teams projected to have more. We'll need to spend a chunk on re-signing KK.
KK resigning won't go on the books until the next year when the cap will go up another 8-10 mil, but yes definitely will. i agree with you there's not going to be as much money to splash on improving the roster as people think unless they're able to move some of these vet contracts. maybe they throw a bag at Knies as an offer sheet or something given the leafs have marner and tavares as UFAs. then there are guys like Boeser, Rantanen (pass), and Verhaeghe as well but there will be some intense bidding wars for their services i'd imagine. Brock Nelson is a nice player, but again doesn't put you over the top and you know how we love to pay aging stars too much money because they're local
 

Typical playoff game for the most part; tight checking, not a lot of space, refs weren't calling anything unless it was pretty egregious and I don't expect that to change. That does bode well for the shitty PK of the Wild. I knew Vegas hadn't drawn many penalties this season but I didn't know it was historically low.

Not the cleanest game by Vegas, I thought they only really got to their game, going downhill, in the second period.

I think everyone knew it was coming but I still think it's cute that Minnesota wants to try to play an excessively physical game against Vegas, one of the biggest teams in the league.

I see Cassidy started the game putting the 3rd line out against the KK-Ek-Boldy line, as historically the William Karlsson line is the shut down line. I didn't pay attention to see if they maintained that the whole game but considering that line had some success for the Wild, I wonder if Vegas would change it up and put the Eichel-Stone-Barbashev line out against Kaprizov.

This is just a really big, strong, deep and experienced team in Vegas. I think the roster is actually better than the one that won the SC two years ago. The Wild top line averaged 22 minutes on the ice, while none of the lines for Vegas averaged more than 17 minutes. In a physical series like this, I would think that's going to wear people down
 

Typical playoff game for the most part; tight checking, not a lot of space, refs weren't calling anything unless it was pretty egregious and I don't expect that to change. That does bode well for the shitty PK of the Wild. I knew Vegas hadn't drawn many penalties this season but I didn't know it was historically low.

Not the cleanest game by Vegas, I thought they only really got to their game, going downhill, in the second period.

I think everyone knew it was coming but I still think it's cute that Minnesota wants to try to play an excessively physical game against Vegas, one of the biggest teams in the league.

I see Cassidy started the game putting the 3rd line out against the KK-Ek-Boldy line, as historically the William Karlsson line is the shut down line. I didn't pay attention to see if they maintained that the whole game but considering that line had some success for the Wild, I wonder if Vegas would change it up and put the Eichel-Stone-Barbashev line out against Kaprizov.

This is just a really big, strong, deep and experienced team in Vegas. I think the roster is actually better than the one that won the SC two years ago. The Wild top line averaged 22 minutes on the ice, while none of the lines for Vegas averaged more than 17 minutes. In a physical series like this, I would think that's going to wear people down
they line matched the eichel line (mostly) and the karlsson line against them (and is why they all finished -1). scary part for the wild is that the KK line dominated but we got smoked with every other unit out there (the Hertl-Dorofeyev-Saad line led 19-6 in Corsi, 6-3 in shots, 7-0 in scoring chances, and a 94.5% expected goal share compared to their matched line). the KK line had 9 scoring chances for (2 against), the rest of the lineup had 12 and gave up 20 and offered up an xG of 0.54 (the Rossi line had 0) against and xGA of 1.57. The KK line had 0.55 xG vs .24 xGA. They will get swept if this is how the rest of the series goes as you can't have 3 lines getting outchanced that bad while hoping the KK line keeps up a 2-1 advantage against Vegas' usual top line
 

Small interesting note in the postgame comments from VGK Coach Cassidy.

Minnesota came out and used the defensemen completely different than they had in the regular season, which took them a little bit of time to adapt. During the season against Vegas, Minnesota's defense didn't pinch very often on breakouts; Last night, MN blue liners in the were right up on the Vegas wingers pinching hard right away in the first period. Had to throw out what they had talked about going into the game.

Loves the chess match during the game and between games. We'll see what both teams do to adapt going into Game 2 tomorrow night.
 

he has 12 power play points all year, despite playing as much PP as he did all year. He's a good puck mover but is hyper conservative
:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: Do you even watch the games?
These are the moments they took him for. In all honesty, they're not going to win the cup this year. There are too many holes and too little depth. Take your seasoning.
Nope. You don't play for next year in the playoffs. Ever.
Buium, to me and apparently to the rest of the Wild brass, is a better offensive defenseman than Faber.
:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
He's much worse than Faber defensively, though he's 3 years younger.
I have no idea whether this is right or not. But he has ZERO NHL experience leading into the game.
The Boldy interview postgame tells you all you need to know about why they put him in that spot.
LOL!! What was he supposed to say? "I can't believe they had him out there. He doesn't have any NHL experience and Brock has been our #1 guy with a bullet all season. I'm very confused." Good lord.

Sitting him in game 82 the far bigger mistake to me than having him out there at the end last night.
Disagree. They were both big mistakes. I think there's a chance he sits game 2, btw.
 

Minnesota came out and used the defensemen completely different than they had in the regular season, which took them a little bit of time to adapt. During the season against Vegas, Minnesota's defense didn't pinch very often on breakouts;
This is generally true and especially true outside of Faber and Middleton. I agree that the game plan had to include D being more aggressive in neutral zone forward, with forwards responsible for covering up and being very alert for that.
 

:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: Do you even watch the games?

Nope. You don't play for next year in the playoffs. Ever.

:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

I have no idea whether this is right or not. But he has ZERO NHL experience leading into the game.

LOL!! What was he supposed to say? "I can't believe they had him out there. He doesn't have any NHL experience and Brock has been our #1 guy with a bullet all season. I'm very confused." Good lord.


Disagree. They were both big mistakes. I think there's a chance he sits game 2, btw.
every single one. if you think faber is an offensively aggressive dman, it's because you watch the Wild (3v3 Faber is different as the responsibilities change). Faber is 61st in scoring (77th in PP/game) for dmen with one guy with more PPP below him (Vlasic who gets the joy of getting PP time because he plays for the Blackhawks who suck). He isn't looking to spring rushes/carry the puck consistently. he is meant to be the rock of the D core and does an amazing job of it (and is why you have to be pumped for the D of the future for the wild that we have Faber and got Buium to drop this far). That pair is going to be possibly the premier pair in the league for the next 10 years. Faber is going to be out there to make the first smart safe play and be in the right spot. It's also why he and Slavin (who's his comp and sits within 2 points of Brock despite playing no PP time) shut the door on everyone in the 4 nations.

i didn't say you're "playing for next year". they're not going to win it which is being realistic. But you need Buium to be able to create from the back end for you and he needs to learn and play.

He said what he said because he watched him in practice all week, as did Hynes. This is literally what he does the best and is why he was a 1st round draft pick. he made a poor pass the guy anticipated in that spot, but also lugged the puck numerous times himself and has more shake than any of our dmen. that's what Boldy's saying and that's 100% why he is in in that spot.

if you played him on PP1, hyped him up pre and post game, and then sit him game 2, Hynes is completely out to lunch. If you thought he was good enough and helped your team, you roll with him over players you healthy scratched when your problem in this series is you can't create offense. Merrill and Chisholm are not going to be an X factor and push you over the edge in this series.
 




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