GopherWeatherGuy
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Not Thorson.
Correct, at least in the interim. There's no guarantee he's going to stay when Niko is officially hired though.
Not Thorson.
Getting to the NCAA the way they did - pretty dominant in their conference tournament and on a 10-game run - combined with now the third trip to the NCAA in four years is pretty impressive for any candidate. He's not being hired because of MN ties, other than the fact that it gives us a leg up with him on other schools. It make us a draw for him beyond simply being a Big Ten school.Suddenly, Medved has become at least a medium-sized name. March success will do that for a guy.
We desperately wanted to believe it was wrong.This is my first inclination, BUT we DID hear Ben Johnson steam in the days leading up to his hire, so there's a precedent.
The last hire was ‘one of us’.
Two kept on for interim to support the players.The coaching staff weren't fired along with Johnson?
I assume from their past history; it was predetermined that Thorson will stay with Niko.Correct, at least in the interim. There's no guarantee he's going to stay when Niko is officially hired though.
I still feel the shock and horror. Our collective "WTF!!" is still echoing around the north woods.We desperately wanted to believe it was wrong.
Can't we still make a post-season tourney?Two kept on for interim to support the players.
In today’s game, I really don’t see an issue with working with CSU. Players are all going to leave anyway.I don't know the legalities of all this, but if assume Niko is the guy, is CSU in the loop on this?
Are they going to go on speculation to start their new coaching hire? If their pissed, you can't just fire him as I assume that might affect the buyout from Minnesota.
We made it. Lost to NW.Can't we still make a post-season tourney?
Ali will probably stay as the new head coach. But I don't see it as a Mark Few situation. It's Niko's offense; Ali just coaches it.If Niko gets hired, he will pick his own staff and I really doubt Thorson will remain. It's time for a reboot of the program. I'm certainly hoping Ali Farokhmanesh comes with Niki. Ali does a lot of the recruiting, and coaches the offense.
Farokhmanesh is good. It wouldn't surprise though, to see Thorson retained also. We'll see.If Niko gets hired, he will pick his own staff and I really doubt Thorson will remain. It's time for a reboot of the program. I'm certainly hoping Ali Farokhmanesh comes with Niki. Ali does a lot of the recruiting, and coaches the offense.
Both had/have mediocre resumes at best. Both have previous ties to the U as a member of the basketball staff. Both would not have been 'The hire' if not for their Minnesota connections. I think Nico is the hire and I don't 'poo-poo' the hire as he has some history of success. Let's be honest, though, he would not be The hire if he didn't have Gopher rootsAny more similarities?
They are highly incentivized to keep Niko. 1, they want money from Minnesota for his buyout. 2, they do not want to pay Niko money to buy him out by firing him. 3, they earn the MWC an extra $2 million for each win they get in the tournament, and they are more likely to win with Niko than without him (link).I don't know the legalities of all this, but if assume Niko is the guy, is CSU in the loop on this?
Are they going to go on speculation to start their new coaching hire? If their pissed, you can't just fire him as I assume that might affect the buyout from Minnesota.
He has been mentioned as a candidate at Virginia, Iowa, and Indiana. Why do you think that is?Both had/have mediocre resumes at best. Both have previous ties to the U as a member of the basketball staff. Both would not have been 'The hire' if not for their Minnesota connections. I think Nico is the hire and I don't 'poo-poo' the hire as he has some history of success. Let's be honest, though, he would not be The hire if he didn't have Gopher roots
Maybe, but the guy with the closest connection to the region would. Iowa has guys with Iowa ties being considered. Coyle hired Dawn for women’s role likely because of regional connections.Both had/have mediocre resumes at best. Both have previous ties to the U as a member of the basketball staff. Both would not have been 'The hire' if not for their Minnesota connections. I think Nico is the hire and I don't 'poo-poo' the hire as he has some history of success. Let's be honest, though, he would not be The hire if he didn't have Gopher roots
I'm not sure but I doubt any of those schools hire him If you wanna bed, I'm in. WE have had 37 coaches mentioned as possibilities...and VA, IN, and IA have a far greater pool than that. There are 40 teams in the NCAA that are not 'Blue Bloods' or perennial NCAA Tournament teams. Every one of their coaches is going to be 'mentioned' or 'rumored', especially those who are in charge of a fringe NCAA Tournament team from a non-P5 conference. Your argument ignores reality.He has been mentioned as a candidate at Virginia, Iowa, and Indiana. Why do you think that is?
I see the advantages of hiring him with his local ties as follows:Getting to the NCAA the way they did - pretty dominant in their conference tournament and on a 10-game run - combined with now the third trip to the NCAA in four years is pretty impressive for any candidate. He's not being hired because of MN ties, other than the fact that it gives us a leg up with him on other schools. It make us a draw for him beyond simply being a Big Ten school.
To get Medved a bigger paycheck for coming here.He has been mentioned as a candidate at Virginia, Iowa, and Indiana. Why do you think that is?
I actually think it's an intentional leak to local media to pacify fans while they wait for CSU's season to end.Let’s be completely honest here. The Medved steam is entirely fan and media generated and not based on any actual source. Coyle doesn’t operate that way and keeps discussions entirely secretive. People are just saying it makes sense because of the local connections. That in no way means Coyle will prioritize that. Honestly I hope that isn’t how he is basing his decision because we did that and we know how that worked out. Medved may very well be the guy but I have hope it’s because he’s a good coach and the right one for this job not because of the local connections.
Here is my experience coaching high school and D3...every time players were presented with an incentive to win....they crumbled...over 20 years. Example: Players lobbying for a day pff over Christmas or a Saturday off..."Coach can we please have Saturday off? Me: "Okay, how about this...you play hard, we win Friday, you get Saturday off. How's that sound?" "Oh coach, you're awesome was the response." Now in these cases, I wanted them to have Saturday off or I would have just said no. What happened in these scenarios? We lost every time. And worse, if there were odds...we were favored to win those games. I'd have been waaay farther ahead just giving them the day off without any qualifiers.Not sure I agree. Every player on the team wants to get to the tournament. Since this is now an openly professional sport, all of the players are fully aware of its business aspects. Player and coach movement is a constant, which means it's no longer really a distraction.
Thorson was with Niko at Drake and CSU. I don't think it's a coincidence that Thorson was keep on with the Gophers after BJ's firing.If Niko gets hired, he will pick his own staff and I really doubt Thorson will remain. It's time for a reboot of the program. I'm certainly hoping Ali Farokhmanesh comes with Niki. Ali does a lot of the recruiting, and coaches the offense. If I'm CSU, I'd try to talk Ali into sticking around as their new HC.
Fleck said he wasn't leaving WMU.If you read the DMR account of Niko leaving Drake it sours his appeal. Partying on Tuesday with A.D. and President and telling them he is not interested in the CSU job. Then on Thursday takes the job. Not sure you can trust the man.
or....Niko asking that Thorson be at least his transition guy, helping retain players, helping pick a staff.Thorson was with Niko at Drake and CSU. I don't think it's a coincidence that Thorson was keep on with the Gophers after BJ's firing.
I may be wrong, but all this points to Thorson sitting on the bench with Niko next season.
I hope he brings Ali for sure. But I fear CSU will promote him.CSU's current staff of assistants:
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Nick Saban said he wasn't going to be the Alabama coach.Fleck said he wasn't leaving WMU.
Thanks for reinforcing my point, appreciate it.Nick Saban said he wasn't going to be the Alabama coach.
Glen Mason wasn't leaving Kansas.
Hayden Fox wasn't leaving Minnesota State.