STrib: Donors to Gophers face a decision: Give to the school or to the athletes?

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This is absolutely an issue that is going to plague many athletic departments. There's so much emotion around NIL and let's be honest, it's more exciting and an immediate gratification to give money to sign a new free agent than it is to give to a general athletic fund that may build administrative offices. There is only so much money each donor is willing to give, and this is a massive new expense line that didn't exist a few years ago, at least not legally.

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Separate but together​

The Golden Gopher Fund sits within the larger University of Minnesota Foundation and doesn't just help finance major campaigns like building Athletes Village or Huntington Bank Stadium or remodeling Mariucci Arena. Donors contribute annually for things like financing overseas trips for teams, paying for recruiting trips for coaches, buying new equipment or funding scholarships.

They brought in $45.1 million in donations in 2023 and $40.5 million in 2022.

In the early days of NIL, there was a sense among donors who wanted to throw money at players immediately that U administrators were dragging their feet in getting donor money directed toward Dinkytown Athletes. The Gophers don't deny that initial hesitation, said Dusty Clements, a deputy athletics director at Minnesota who has overseen the Golden Gopher Fund since 2017.

"Initially it was a little taboo I guess is the word? Like a four-letter word," he said.

Dinkytown Athletes isn't even trying to compete on their fundraising level, co-founder Rob Gag said. This year's goal is $5 million in donations. He said they have three or four donors like Klas, and those people have been instrumental in helping them cultivate more robust donor relationships.

"It's been a massive challenge," Gag said.

Part of that is institutional — even if the University of Minnesota athletics department or Golden Gopher Fund wanted to share donor lists and phone numbers, the U's legal department has said it's not allowed — and part of that is educational.

"I am used to failure ... with sales my whole life," Gag said. "I have never had no's like I did with NIL. People are warming to it but the people you need to sell, the demographic, is over 65. They have most of the money. They are just slow to warm on it."

"The collectives that are most successful, it's not from the collectives being incredible sales people, it's because they're in alignment with the university's foundation, they're in alignment with the athletics department's foundation, and the dollars flowing that way."

The Gophers and Dinkytown Athletes are trying to show that alignment to donors. As Klas put it, "Quite frankly the separation of church and state has become a pretty thin line."


Go Gophers!!
 

"In the early days of NIL, there was a sense among donors who wanted to throw money at players immediately that U administrators were dragging their feet in getting donor money directed toward Dinkytown Athletes. The Gophers don't deny that initial hesitation, said Dusty Clements, a deputy athletics director at Minnesota who has overseen the Golden Gopher Fund since 2017."

And there you have it. Always behind.
 


"In the early days of NIL, there was a sense among donors who wanted to throw money at players immediately that U administrators were dragging their feet in getting donor money directed toward Dinkytown Athletes. The Gophers don't deny that initial hesitation, said Dusty Clements, a deputy athletics director at Minnesota who has overseen the Golden Gopher Fund since 2017."

And there you have it. Always behind.

Why is this exclusively an Athletics Department issue? Does this not also indicate a lack of trust or belief in DTA and its leadership? Why should an organization cultivate long-standing relationships - which are generating tens of millions of dollars for transparent purposes - simply hand them off to a third party with zero accountability?

It's fine to take the position that DTA needs more money in order for the teams to be more successful. But the idea that schools should do everything to make that happen without a proof of concept or any consideration of the broader implications is asinine. Collectives have no requirement to disclose how donations are used -- Gag says the demographic is "slow to warm up to it." But he's skimming over the distinction in the two "donations." They are not the same thing and pretending they are is a big reason why any administration should be wary of the relationship between its donors and any collective.
 

Why is this exclusively an Athletics Department issue? Does this not also indicate a lack of trust or belief in DTA and its leadership? Why should an organization cultivate long-standing relationships - which are generating tens of millions of dollars for transparent purposes - simply hand them off to a third party with zero accountability?

It's fine to take the position that DTA needs more money in order for the teams to be more successful. But the idea that schools should do everything to make that happen without a proof of concept or any consideration of the broader implications is asinine. Collectives have no requirement to disclose how donations are used -- Gag says the demographic is "slow to warm up to it." But he's skimming over the distinction in the two "donations." They are not the same thing and pretending they are is a big reason why any administration should be wary of the relationship between its donors and any collective.
The athletic department has all of the long term donor relationships. DTA is new and let's face it- these collectives are fake satellites that are designed to execute the will of the college programs they pull in money for. The athletic department has to understand which way the wind is blowing and this year and to a lesser degree, last year it is NIL that is the driving force behind where big time players will end up. Good coaches will break ties and win close battles but the money has to be there.

We had a once in a generation to break the losing fever here by catching the NIL wave early. We didn't so here we sit. We worried instead. Had we competed for our core players (Payne, Hawkins) and kept them and added a couple of key guys- we could be sitting on a contending team next year. As it is....we are scrambling. Maybe it will work out.
 


The athletic department has all of the long term donor relationships. DTA is new and let's face it- these collectives are fake satellites that are designed to execute the will of the college programs they pull in money for. The athletic department has to understand which way the wind is blowing and this year and to a lesser degree, last year it is NIL that is the driving force behind where big time players will end up. Good coaches will break ties and win close battles but the money has to be there.

We had a once in a generation to break the losing fever here by catching the NIL wave early. We didn't so here we sit. We worried instead. Had we competed for our core players (Payne, Hawkins) and kept them and added a couple of key guys- we could be sitting on a contending team next year. As it is....we are scrambling. Maybe it will work out.

It won't. It's #MinnesotaSports !
 

The athletic department has all of the long term donor relationships. DTA is new and let's face it- these collectives are fake satellites that are designed to execute the will of the college programs they pull in money for. The athletic department has to understand which way the wind is blowing and this year and to a lesser degree, last year it is NIL that is the driving force behind where big time players will end up. Good coaches will break ties and win close battles but the money has to be there.

We had a once in a generation to break the losing fever here by catching the NIL wave early. We didn't so here we sit. We worried instead. Had we competed for our core players (Payne, Hawkins) and kept them and added a couple of key guys- we could be sitting on a contending team next year. As it is....we are scrambling. Maybe it will work out.

I mean no disrespect at all to Jeremiah Carter, who by all accounts is a great guy, great alum, representative of the U, etc. BUT, when Coyle promoted the Head of Compliance to be our new head of NIL, Coyle sent a very specific message on his vision. Cautious, by the books, steady, and not bold.

Hopefully Carter and our entire NIL operation can lead with vision and be bold, this is our legal chance to breakthrough, but we now knew what we all alleged, we were slow out of the gate.

Go Gophers!!
 

I mean no disrespect at all to Jeremiah Carter, who by all accounts is a great guy, great alum, representative of the U, etc. BUT, when Coyle promoted the Head of Compliance to be our new head of NIL, Coyle sent a very specific message on his vision. Cautious, by the books, steady, and not bold.

Hopefully Carter and our entire NIL operation can lead with vision and be bold, this is our legal chance to breakthrough, but we now knew what we all alleged, we were slow out of the gate.

Go Gophers!!
100% accurate. I heard it with my own ears a year ago. Based on how they decided to go about it- this was the way it was going to work out. We pulled out the book of Hoyle and everyone else was playing cards with the new rules.
 

100% accurate. I heard it with my own ears a year ago. Based on how they decided to go about it- this was the way it was going to work out. We pulled out the book of Hoyle and everyone else was playing cards with the new rules.
You are right about the U being cautious, but it's inaccurate to claim that "everyone else" jumped into the new game from the get go. I get the sense that most of the BIG more or less dealt with it as the U has done.
 



The athletic department has all of the long term donor relationships. DTA is new and let's face it- these collectives are fake satellites that are designed to execute the will of the college programs they pull in money for. The athletic department has to understand which way the wind is blowing and this year and to a lesser degree, last year it is NIL that is the driving force behind where big time players will end up. Good coaches will break ties and win close battles but the money has to be there.

We had a once in a generation to break the losing fever here by catching the NIL wave early. We didn't so here we sit. We worried instead. Had we competed for our core players (Payne, Hawkins) and kept them and added a couple of key guys- we could be sitting on a contending team next year. As it is....we are scrambling. Maybe it will work out.

To me, this reads like DTA and other collectives have no agency to produce results or build their own portfolio of relationships. I agree that administration needs to support DTA, but to what degree will be determined by a lot of factors. One of which is the administration's belief in the principals of that organization and how they will steward a relationship that isn't theirs and for which there are no repercussions if they compromise it. We seem to accept that Coyle hesitated because he was overly cautious. Why can't it be that he needed to see more from Gag and DTA before he pushed his team to be more aggressive? He didn't hire these people.

Put another way: If DTA fails, it is a short-term setback for athletics that they need to address. If DTA blows up a series of donor relationships, it's millions of dollars lost that take long-term relationship building to replace/recover.

If there is a criticism of Coyle here, it's that he should have installed his own leadership team to run the collective. But taking his time with DTA is due diligence, imo.
 

You are right about the U being cautious, but it's inaccurate to claim that "everyone else" jumped into the new game from the get go. I get the sense that most of the BIG more or less dealt with it as the U has done.
OK- certainly it is all opinion from our vantage point. What we are pretty darn sure of though, is that the U has a smaller war chest at this point than other Big Ten schools and they are scrambling to catch up. I heard them talking about how they would handle it a year ago in person and I knew then we were in trouble.
 

as I read the article, it sounds as if the Golden Gopher Fund and the Athletic Department saw the donors as "their" donors and saw it as a competition with Dinkytown Athletes. as in "they're trying to take our donors." and that the Athletic Department was worried about any hint of impropriety - as in 'we have to be pure as the driven snow.'

being pure and noble may give the Athletic Department the higher moral ground, but it doesn't help recruit athletes to MN and it doesn't help win games. this would never happen at one of the Southern schools. there, the #1 issue is "helping the teams win." at MN, the #1 issue seems to be "living up to a higher standard."

the Gopher Athletic Department - we take a knife to a gun fight and congratulate ourselves for losing with dignity.
 

as I read the article, it sounds as if the Golden Gopher Fund and the Athletic Department saw the donors as "their" donors and saw it as a competition with Dinkytown Athletes. as in "they're trying to take our donors." and that the Athletic Department was worried about any hint of impropriety - as in 'we have to be pure as the driven snow.'

being pure and noble may give the Athletic Department the higher moral ground, but it doesn't help recruit athletes to MN and it doesn't help win games. this would never happen at one of the Southern schools. there, the #1 issue is "helping the teams win." at MN, the #1 issue seems to be "living up to a higher standard."

the Gopher Athletic Department - we take a knife to a gun fight and congratulate ourselves for losing with dignity.

This may be one of the most astute descriptions I've ever read! Well done:

"the Gopher Athletic Department - we take a knife to a gun fight and congratulate ourselves for losing with dignity."

Go Gophers!!
 



as I read the article, it sounds as if the Golden Gopher Fund and the Athletic Department saw the donors as "their" donors and saw it as a competition with Dinkytown Athletes. as in "they're trying to take our donors." and that the Athletic Department was worried about any hint of impropriety - as in 'we have to be pure as the driven snow.'

being pure and noble may give the Athletic Department the higher moral ground, but it doesn't help recruit athletes to MN and it doesn't help win games. this would never happen at one of the Southern schools. there, the #1 issue is "helping the teams win." at MN, the #1 issue seems to be "living up to a higher standard."

the Gopher Athletic Department - we take a knife to a gun fight and congratulate ourselves for losing with dignity.
I’ve been in a lot of institutional fundraising environments and trust me people who have the lists and have cultivated relationships over time are not willing to turn that over to someone “here to help” very often. Most of the time it’s about a power and money grab. I can easily see the University Foundation taking that position and it’s understandable.
 


Put another way: If DTA fails, it is a short-term setback for athletics that they need to address. If DTA blows up a series of donor relationships, it's millions of dollars lost that take long-term relationship building to replace/recover.
Talk about hyperbole/exaggeration. I give to charity. If they told me they'd like to introduce me to another charity of kind of a similar nature, I'd listen. And if the new, second charity pissed me off, in no way whatsoever would I hold it against the first charity.

Different people working/running it, etc. Completely unfair to judge the first charity based upon the actions of the second, when they make it known there is an obvious dividing line between the two.
 

I’ve been in a lot of institutional fundraising environments and trust me people who have the lists and have cultivated relationships over time are not willing to turn that over to someone “here to help” very often. Most of the time it’s about a power and money grab. I can easily see the University Foundation taking that position and it’s understandable.
Then they could at least come out and say that they are not doing what is in the best interest of Gopher athletics. Don't try to play both sides.
 


The people that give to the Gopher Fund are doing so to help the sports teams win. If the school is making little or no effort to help teams above the level of women's badmitten win- why bother to give to the school. Give to the science fund or some academic cause in that case.
 

The people that give to the Gopher Fund are doing so to help the sports teams win. If the school is making little or no effort to help teams above the level of women's badmitten win- why bother to give to the school. Give to the science fund or some academic cause in that case.
Not necessarily. My understanding of the fund is that it was scholarship money. If not, I’ve been bamboozled. My modest donations have to support athletes in all sports, not buy wins.
 

Talk about hyperbole/exaggeration. I give to charity. If they told me they'd like to introduce me to another charity of kind of a similar nature, I'd listen. And if the new, second charity pissed me off, in no way whatsoever would I hold it against the first charity.

Different people working/running it, etc. Completely unfair to judge the first charity based upon the actions of the second, when they make it known there is an obvious dividing line between the two.

I run a NPO and I can assure you that relationships in that space are not nearly that simple. Further, categorizing DTA and other collectives as a charity is completely inaccurate, and that distinction is a big reason why some ADs have pumped the brakes on this issue.

This board has an incredibly long thread dedicated to whether or not the head coach is good enough (putting it kindly). And yet in a thread about donations to DTA, no one else seems to be questioning whether the people running it are good enough. Instead, we simply blame the AD --- clearly he should tell his staff to hand over the dollars they've worked for years to earn. Surely DTA will manage that revenue more effectively than a long-established institution could hope to.

Alas, I recognize I'm in the overwhelming minority on this issue, so this will be my last comment about it in this thread.
 




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