Morgan "Fake" Slide

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Did anyone agree with the broadcasters take that Morgan looked like he was giving himself up on one of his scrambles?
 




At worst, it looked like he was going to make a cut, then briefly thought about sliding, then just kept going.
 



I think it could have been called. I called it out literally in real time with the people I was watching the game with. I felt it was fortunate it wasn't called.

But regardless, if it was a missed call, it wasn't nearly as bad as the "illegal hands to the face" that was not only called on the wrong player, but actually on the entirely wrong TEAM.
 

I actually agree with the announcers. It's the tough thing about that rule in general because it's so hard to tell. I do believe the Michigan State defender thought Morgan was sliding. I don't think Morgan was trying to be deceptive, but I think he was going to slide and changed his mind but we're not talking about Lamar Jackson here so it's impossible to say that with much certainty. That's why the rule is really tough to enforce.
 




It didn't seem to me like he fully dropped his hips. The rule is once the hips drop, he's down. Seemed more like a cut to the side.
 

Schnauzer said:
I think it could have been called. I called it out literally in real time with the people I was watching the game with. I felt it was fortunate it wasn't called.

But regardless, if it was a missed call, it wasn't nearly as bad as the "illegal hands to the face" that was not only called on the wrong player, but actually on the entirely wrong TEAM.
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On the hands to the face thing there was video posted in another thread that shows Brockington get his hands in the face of the MSU player at the very end of the play which might have led to the mixup, but that was a blown call to be sure because the MSU guy had his hands in Brockington's face during the play in a far worse way.

As for Morgan....watching it live I can see where for the briefest moment it looked like he might slide but I don't think it was enough of a fake to warrant a penalty for a fake slide. The protection the QB gets probably played in our favor on that one.
 


Schnauzer said:
I think it could have been called. I called it out literally in real time with the people I was watching the game with. I felt it was fortunate it wasn't called.

But regardless, if it was a missed call, it wasn't nearly as bad as the "illegal hands to the face" that was not only called on the wrong player, but actually on the entirely wrong TEAM.
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I have watched that run a bunch of times and if it was going to be a slide, it would have been a VERY late slide. So I think you have to assume it was a cut.
 



If you were going to fake a slide I think you'd do it differently.

It was more of a "move" that yeah involves some head / body movement.
 

noamfromm said:
Did anyone agree with the broadcasters take that Morgan looked like he was giving himself up on one of his scrambles?
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The announcers said the defender thought that. I don’t think he said Morgan faked a slide
 


Here it is frame by frame. The first frame I think you could think he might have started a slide -- the last frame clearly looks like he's bracing for contact/ the DB is not letting up. It's even more gray for me after looking through the stills
 

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MaxyJR1 said:
Gray area. I don't think that was his intention.
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The view on the BIG show is pretty clear, the brace and all made him stumble a bit. He intended to cut in but his brace prevents that.
 

RogueGopher said:
It didn't seem to me like he fully dropped his hips. The rule is once the hips drop, he's down. Seemed more like a cut to the side.
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I thought it was more Morgan bracing for impact for a split second, and then realizing he could cut left and gain more yards.

I give it maybe 80-20; 80% would agree with a no-call, but there's 20% that may have called it, and I don't know it would have been a terrible call going that way either.

But on the replay, I thought there was a strong case for arguing Morgan simply tensed up for a moment expecting to get whacked, and then made his cut.
 

Schnauzer said:
I think it could have been called. I called it out literally in real time with the people I was watching the game with. I felt it was fortunate it wasn't called.

But regardless, if it was a missed call, it wasn't nearly as bad as the "illegal hands to the face" that was not only called on the wrong player, but actually on the entirely wrong TEAM.
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Same here. It was not as obvious as Kenny Pickett's fake slide last year but I thought the refs were going to call it, if anything to enforce the new rule, and I would have gone along with the call.
But, hey...I'm like you, I'm good with the non-call. :p

 

If an opposing QB made the exact same move, would you be asking for a flag?
 



I think it was more indecisive/less graceful move than a fake a slide

given the rule, it could've been called he was down.
 


Swaggerson said:
Should have been a flag.
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My college coach always said the breaks always even themselves out. The blown call on the personal foul/facemask penalty involving the two #0's (Brockington got screwed) was more egregious, not even really close
 

Section 100 said:
If an opposing QB made the exact same move, would you be asking for a flag?
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I would have done the same thing I did when Morgan did it....I would have thought maybe a flag could have been thrown but would have been fine with no flag because it was not an obvious fake out on his part.
 


When I first saw the play in real time I just thought Tanner was avoiding the hit, and then was able to keep going. After watching the replay, I still think that was the case, but it did look like the MSU player pulled up a bit.
 

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