How can Limegrover stop a lynch mob?

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If you Limegrover and you knew a lynch mob mentality was building among the fans, how would you go about correcting the offense to right now by:

1) Improving quarterback play.
2) Improving wide receiver production.
3) Improving rushing yardage against better d-lines and line backers.
4) Improving scoring per possession.
 

Yes and why did we switch the RB and WR coaches' duties this year? Was this supposed to increase production in both positions?

Also, how about an OL coach full-time (like every other team), and have Limegrover focus on just one job?
 

Call shorter routes. Get the ball in space. Stop trying to throw it 30 yards down the field. Throw more bubble screens, spot routes, swing passes. Let Maye, Berk, D Jones make plays after the catch.

The field is 53 yards wide and Limegrover uses about 25 of them. Maddening
 

Yes and why did we switch the RB and WR coaches' duties this year? Was this supposed to increase production in both positions?

Also, how about an OL coach full-time (like every other team), and have Limegrover focus on just one job?

More questions than answers. Whenever I find that true, things are truly heading south.
 

More than anything, we need to find a game manager. Leidner doesn't appear to feel the blitz and just about fumbles every time he's sacked. Yesterday was the 2nd time this year I saw him hold the ball over his head hoping for a two hand basketball type pass to work. Not smart. On the one td we had, if you watch the replay, TCU blitzes and Streveler took a instinctual step back to give the play more time to develop. And we know the result. It appears clear at this point the incoming freshmen receivers must not be any better than the guys we already have otherwise they would be playing. So there isn't any answers on the current roster. This year is going to be what this year is and we'll be lucky to get to 6 wins. Detroit is beautiful around Christmas time I hear...
 



I just couldnt believe how we cant do anything different ever on offense. D makes adjustments just fine but the O is just tarded
 

I just think the passing game needs to be a little more inventive. I think a lot of the suggestions offered in the thread would help.

I had fairly high hopes for Leidner, but I'll be the first to admit they may have been misplaced.
 

Score points, a win next weekend and a win at Michigan and the tide will turn.


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I just think the passing game needs to be a little more inventive. I think a lot of the suggestions offered in the thread would help.

I had fairly high hopes for Leidner, but I'll be the first to admit they may have been misplaced.

Clearly the coaches know all the stuff that is being tossed around in this thread so the obvious question then why don't they do any of it. The answer people don't want to accept is that they don't feel we have the personnel to execute it.
 

Clearly the coaches know all the stuff that is being tossed around in this thread so the obvious question then why don't they do any of it. The answer people don't want to accept is that they don't feel we have the personnel to execute it.

Bingo. We would be passing it around the field had we the talent to do so. Unfortunately, that falls back on the coaches as well (they don't get to blame a GM like the pro coaches do).
 

Clearly the coaches know all the stuff that is being tossed around in this thread so the obvious question then why don't they do any of it. The answer people don't want to accept is that they don't feel we have the personnel to execute it.

True. I just don't know why they don't more quick rhythm stuff. Must be a reason. If they are going to stack up against the run, try a few quick slants. Wolitarsky and Jones are big WRs so it's not like they couldn't take a hit.
 

Bingo. We would be passing it around the field had we the talent to do so. Unfortunately, that falls back on the coaches as well (they don't get to blame a GM like the pro coaches do).

I dont accept that answer? they have a QB in for 3 years and they havent taught him to throw a screen pass or a short slant? I dont care who the QB is we are not running plays that our players are able to execute. so why not call plays that we can? how about shorter passes like Outs? I believe KJ got an out and turned it into a large gainer.
 



More than anything, we need to find a game manager. Leidner doesn't appear to feel the blitz and just about fumbles every time he's sacked. Yesterday was the 2nd time this year I saw him hold the ball over his head hoping for a two hand basketball type pass to work. Not smart. On the one td we had, if you watch the replay, TCU blitzes and Streveler took a instinctual step back to give the play more time to develop. And we know the result. It appears clear at this point the incoming freshmen receivers must not be any better than the guys we already have otherwise they would be playing. So there isn't any answers on the current roster. This year is going to be what this year is and we'll be lucky to get to 6 wins. Detroit is beautiful around Christmas time I hear...

Until they get a chance to get on the field I guess we won't know how good the freshman receiver's are.
 

I can't believe we haven't worked in the flea-flicker too. With our personnel we could easily execute 3-4 a game with big results.
 

I dont accept that answer? they have a QB in for 3 years and they havent taught him to throw a screen pass or a short slant? I dont care who the QB is we are not running plays that our players are able to execute. so why not call plays that we can? how about shorter passes like Outs? I believe KJ got an out and turned it into a large gainer.

They work with these guys everyday in practice, they know what the offense as a unit can and can not execute. The mentality you are putting forward is the video game way of looking at things but it is so much more complex then that and there are so many moving parts in play on both sides of the ball. A quick slant in madden is easy, against a good defense if the throw is off that quick slant become a pick 6 in a hurry.
 

Until they get a chance to get on the field I guess we won't know how good the freshman receiver's are.

This staff hasn't shown much hesitation in terms of playing true freshman. If they were better then the guys in front of them they would be playing. WR is a position where you can toss a true freshman out there and they have a chance to be successful right away if they are good enough. It isn't like the line positions where you need time to get bigger and stronger.
 

I can't believe we haven't worked in the flea-flicker too. With our personnel we could easily execute 3-4 a game with big results.
I agree. There are all kinds of plays that I can make work on the old PS3 and XBOX that these dumb coaches can't seem to figure out.
 

I agree. There are all kinds of plays that I can make work on the old PS3 and XBOX that these dumb coaches can't seem to figure out.

Exactly. The QB waggle works no matter the defense. Why does Lime Grover not know this?
 

Win big next week and all is forgiven until the Michigan game.

Isn't this the Gopherhole way?

We need to hire a few assistant coaches on offense. OL coach to work with Limegrover. We need all the help we can get on offemse.
 

Win big next week and all is forgiven until the Michigan game.

Isn't this the Gopherhole way?

We need to hire a few assistant coaches on offense. OL coach to work with Limegrover. We need all the help we can get on offemse.

Maybe some posters here could help? If not, Flea-Fickers... All day long!
 


Haven't we seen a lot of single wing tailback sweeps with the team? And, its option for single wing tailback sweep pass?
 

RUN A JET SWEEP!!! To someone NOT named Fruechte
 

People are asking why we don't run certain plays. The answer is that it is foolish for us to do anything that develops behind the line of scrimmage. Do I have to explain why that's the case? I doubt it.
 

I'm not calling for anyone's head. I have issue with how vanilla our offense has been, but not the overarching approach (run the ball, shorten the game, control possession, etc.).

And I wasn't too alarmed about Leidner going into the game. He'd thrown what - 76 passes in college? That's equal to maybe three games (typically)? I felt like I'd seen enough to make me think, "he'll get there, he just needs to play".

But I was shocked at how bad we looked on so many levels Saturday:
1. Our veteran offensive line was dominated
2. The difference in speed and skill between their receivers and ours. Everybody knows we are weak/young/raw at WR, but besides that, we're ridiculously slow
3. Leidner was obviously hurting, but he didn't just look like an inexperienced QB, he looked like he'd never played QB - ever. That was embarrassing, and I don't necessarily blame him. He was obviously limited, and I'm not sure if the coaches left him in because he's the supposed "leader" or because they are that afraid of playing Streveler. Either scenario is troubling. Boykin is a very good player, but he is in a completely different stratosphere compared to ML at this point.

For me, and I'm sure a number of other people on here, it wasn't just that we lost the game Saturday, it was the way in which we lost. The score doesn't indicate the disparity in talent that was so obvious to anyone watching.

That said, it could very well be that TCU has a 10+ win team this year, plus they had a bye week, had only played a dump team, were healthy, etc. And thankfully, as I've said several times in other threads, the Big Ten is wide open this year and anything could happen.

It was just really disappointing to see that while I think we have progressed, we're still so much farther away than I thought/hoped.
 

Can't wait 'til the Gophers meet them in their first game of 2015.
 

After 3 games the best passing offense in the B1G against much better competition than the Gophers have faced are led by a Soph QB, Soph & FR WRs and a JR TE.

Now to be fair those players are more talented than the Gophers players and maybe all the Gophers really need is time to develop which is what most want to believe. Or the case may be these players are exactly what we have seen so far and waiting for them to develop in the end won't matter.

If it ultimately doesn't matter Limegrover and the head coach won't have to worry about stopping a lynch mob because they will be out of jobs.
 

They work with these guys everyday in practice, they know what the offense as a unit can and can not execute. The mentality you are putting forward is the video game way of looking at things but it is so much more complex then that and there are so many moving parts in play on both sides of the ball. A quick slant in madden is easy, against a good defense if the throw is off that quick slant become a pick 6 in a hurry.

But that's where checkdowns are needed and I haven't seen that in Limegrover's repertoire. Limegrover's system seems to be about what happens in the "set" and not after the snap. Granted, inexperienced QBs can't checkdown very effectively, but it all seems to simplistic from where I sit. I am sure it is more complex than what I can discern, but it is simply not that sophisticated an attack.
 





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