Gophers QB Drake Lindsey Arrested on Underage Drinking, Fake ID Charges

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Beerculees said:
I got a minor when in college. Most expensive 5 beers of my life (so far). This is a non issue.

It becomes an issue if it keeps happening or escalating. All of us (except 1) would be happy if this is the worst thing our kids do.
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You must be younger than I am. I'm pretty sure my minor cost LESS than 5 beers at a bar nowadays!
 

Given the US legal age is on par with mostly none of the developed western world (generally 18) the 1984 law change probably stemmed from our unique automobile culture turned deadly weapon, the horrendous survivability of 20th century vehicles, and arguably some unique cultural issues/idiotic behavior. I have some ideas on modifying it for better casualty results but nobody would want to hear it.

I’m more surprised when a 20 year old is a teetotaler? Don’t like the fake ID thing but it’s a a whitish lie versus an arguably overbearing misdirected law. Performative punishment, and move on.
 




My mother was not pleased with my nolo contendere plea at age 18 for DUI, but the Judge was nice to me and she paid the fine. Zero infractions since other than a speeding ticket in 1991 (in I-O-W-A no less).

Hopefully a similar lesson for Drake. Life will go better coloring within the lines.
 

I'm cutting him some slack. I could not find a recent paper that I read but the human brain does not not appear to fully develop until the late 20's, or possibly the mid 30's. So, all those dumb things that we did (and Drake) were not our fault, our brains had just not fully developed:). https://www.bing.com/search?q=what+age+does+the+brain+develop+completely?&cvid=6bf86bdf7a3641e1ba2ef127b2867f35&gs_lcrp=EgRlZGdlKgYIABBFGDkyBggAEEUYOTIGCAEQABhAMgcIAhDrBxhA0gEJNDA0MDdqMGo0qAIIsAIB&FORM=ANAB01&adppc=EDGEDBB&PC=EDGEDBB
 

Schnauzer said:
So are you saying that had I been a little more ridged about underaged drinking my kids would have cured cancer instead of their law degrees?
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Your sarcasm is pointless. It sounds like your kids are doing great, congratulations.

Like most parents, I want my kids to do great for themselves in the end, and also make fewer mistakes and hurt fewer people along the way.
 



denguegopher said:
I'm cutting him some slack. I could not find a recent paper that I read but the human brain does not not appear to fully develop until the late 20's, or possibly the mid 30's. So, all those dumb things that we did (and Drake) were not our fault, our brains had just not fully developed:). https://www.bing.com/search?q=what+age+does+the+brain+develop+completely?&cvid=6bf86bdf7a3641e1ba2ef127b2867f35&gs_lcrp=EgRlZGdlKgYIABBFGDkyBggAEEUYOTIGCAEQABhAMgcIAhDrBxhA0gEJNDA0MDdqMGo0qAIIsAIB&FORM=ANAB01&adppc=EDGEDBB&PC=EDGEDBB
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en.wikipedia.org

Brain matures at 25 myth - Wikipedia

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My brother had the best fake ID of all time. I’m three years older than him so gave him my expired license same last name looked like each other piece of cake. For whatever reason, my two kids both had Illinois fake IDs there was some connection to Illinois in our town to where that’s where a big chunk of the kids got them. It irritated me when I found out they both had one, but expecting kids to go to college and not drink until they’re 21 in general is nonsense. I turned 19 in ‘84 and was grandfathered in when the law changed to 21 later that year that was a shit show for a while trying to figure out who is legal and who wasn’t for the bars.

I hope they have Drake make a quick statement, followed by a quick statement for PJ and then we never hear about it again.
 

upnorthkid said:
Correct. Fake id gets you taken to jail and booked a bunch of places
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I think with all the concern around public safety, the fake ID is probably enforced fairly seriously. My guess 99% of the fake IDs relate to underage drinking and youthful mischief, but the other 1% has more than a few bad actors in the subset.

I was 19 when the legal drinking age in Minnesota dropped to 18 from 21 in 1973. They raised it to 19 in 1976 largely at the behest of the Minnesota State High School League. Ten years later it was raised to 21 (with a grandfather clause for those who had already turned 19). As I recall, there was a Federal push to raise the drinking age to 21 and I believe a reduction in some Federal spending for states that didn't comply.

Who knows how this affects Lindsey and what PJ will do about it. He likely has to do something, but it doesn't appear that Lindsey was driving under the influence, so that will lighten the punishment.
 

In the grand scheme of things not much to see here. I have a friend from high school who got popped for his 4th dwi in 10 years (5 total) in 2023. He spent a day in jail and was placed on probation for 3 years. The conditions of his probation were no alcohol or drugs, etc. Well, he thought he could get away with drinking and then had to spend a few days more in jail. Then he thought the solution to his problem was fentanyl. They’ll never catch me doing that I bet he thought. Wrong. I recall clear as day a high school assembly where a State Trooper gave the don’t drink and drive or do drugs talk. We sat next to each other. One of us listened and the other didn’t. I understand he has a problem but he has always styled himself as some genius and yet he does incredible stupid things. It is all fun and games until you are in your 50s with a flashlight shining in your face on 212 outside of Bird Island.
 


Gopherchase said:
My brother had the best fake ID of all time. I’m three years older than him so gave him my expired license same last name looked like each other piece of cake. For whatever reason, my two kids both had Illinois fake IDs there was some connection to Illinois in our town to where that’s where a big chunk of the kids got them. It irritated me when I found out they both had one, but expecting kids to go to college and not drink until they’re 21 in general is nonsense. I turned 19 in ‘84 and was grandfathered in when the law changed to 21 later that year that was a shit show for a while trying to figure out who is legal and who wasn’t for the bars.

I hope they have Drake make a quick statement, followed by a quick statement for PJ and then we never hear about it again.
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My two kids have Minnesota fakes they they’re totally legit. They even get scanned at the liquor stores and they work. It’s their picture their address, everything identical to their drivers license, except the date of birth. It’s crazy the first time I saw them I couldn’t believe how good they were.
 

50PoundHead said:
I think with all the concern around public safety, the fake ID is probably enforced fairly seriously. My guess 99% of the fake IDs relate to underage drinking and youthful mischief, but the other 1% has more than a few bad actors in the subset.

I was 19 when the legal drinking age in Minnesota dropped to 18 from 21 in 1973. They raised it to 19 in 1976 largely at the behest of the Minnesota State High School League. Ten years later it was raised to 21 (with a grandfather clause for those who had already turned 19). As I recall, there was a Federal push to raise the drinking age to 21 and I believe a reduction in some Federal spending for states that didn't comply.

Who knows how this affects Lindsey and what PJ will do about it. He likely has to do something, but it doesn't appear that Lindsey was driving under the influence, so that will lighten the punishment.
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I am in the same age group as you so no fake ID needed. We were more interested in the hippy lettuce anyway.
 

HitMeAgainIAmStillMoving said:
I am in the same age group as you so no fake ID needed. We were more interested in the hippy lettuce anyway.
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The drinking age change sure cut down the need to drive to Hudson. But we knew some older guys on the Augsburg campus that would deliver the goods for a small carrying fee. Four cases of delicious Pfeifer's for $10 at Zipp's Liquors on Franklin or Skol down on 26th and 27th.
 
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BilldGopher said:
My mother was not pleased with my nolo contendere plea at age 18 for DUI, but the Judge was nice to me and she paid the fine. Zero infractions since other than a speeding ticket in 1991 (in I-O-W-A no less).

Hopefully a similar lesson for Drake. Life will go better coloring within the lines.
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Whyowa can count? I don't believe they can decipher the numbers needed to determine if a speeding ticket is warranted. They just cannot be capable.
 


The bigger story here is is how does a kid who gets caught underage drinking / fake id make it as a front page of cbssports.com or espn.com? I get it is a QB and a potentially a top rated qb, but this seems strange compared to things other students have done that have gone vastly underreported. Not saying this is all bad for the U of Minn or Drake, just seems out of place.
 

gophernut1 said:
The bigger story here is is how does a kid who gets caught underage drinking / fake id make it as a front page of cbssports.com or espn.com? I get it is a QB and a potentially a top rated qb, but this seems strange compared to things other students have done that have gone vastly underreported. Not saying this is all bad for the U of Minn or Drake, just seems out of place.
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I'm sure a beat writer or two saw this as an opportunity to disparage Fleck and the image of the program he's done a really good job of projecting over the years, and to see if they could find a way to call him a hypocrite if Drake doesn't get some kind of punishment that pleases the masses.
 

upnorthkid said:
that's because if you went drinking with AK and asked him to pass you a beer, he may throw it at you at 100mph
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Can't get drunk if you're eating the shards from the glass
 

gophernut1 said:
The bigger story here is is how does a kid who gets caught underage drinking / fake id make it as a front page of cbssports.com or espn.com? I get it is a QB and a potentially a top rated qb, but this seems strange compared to things other students have done that have gone vastly underreported. Not saying this is all bad for the U of Minn or Drake, just seems out of place.
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Maybe it is the continuing conspiracy by the national media to not give the team the credit they deserve and to knock them down?
 


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