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We were on a break.There’s nothing to agree on, you are wrong.
We were on a break.There’s nothing to agree on, you are wrong.
His comment was spot-on. Said poster was clearly posting as if their mind was made up. I think you just don't like @howeda7False and stupid. Take some time away from the keyboard
Interesting and realistic take that I mostly agree with, but Herb Sendek is a pretty old guy now and hasn’t been in Power 5 for at least a decade. There has to be candidates that meet your criteria that are better prepared for the grind and not in the sunset of their careers.If Indiana hires McCollum, that strikes me as a sign of where they are - a guy 2 years out of D2 at Indiana? Doesn't scream power hire to me for a program at that level.
But whatever.
Minnesota has its own problems and plenty of them. The Gophers basically need a coach that can raise the level of the program without having all of the advantages. Coyle is fooling himself or others when he said there's no reason Minnesota can't win conference championships. It's been 30 years since the Gophers even were above .500 in the conference 2 years in a row. But you can always make a program better than when you arrived and that should be the immediate goal -- with the portal, you don't need to wait 4 years for that.
Minnesota basically needs another Tubby Smith - only one for the modern era of cbk.
Herb Sendek is the kind of Tubby-esque coach -- not saying there aren't others that fit the description -- that can have success at Minnesota, and there are a lot of good coaches that would be good elsewhere that couldn't. Like Richard Pitino.
I have no idea if he is on Coyle's short or long list.
Ben sucksYou've clearly made your mind up. Coyle sucks and is already blowing it. Should have just kept Ben then. Enjoy wallowing.
I was under the impression President Gabel got involved and forced Coyle into a corner about who he could hire.Mmmhmm. But when you drill down- he is just hoping to hit it big on a budget coach. Ben blew him away…
Is this a bit? LolIf Coyle lied to the press when he claimed to have not even begun his job search, how would you, as a job candidate, begin to trust his word if you knew he lied to the public? How would you? The most disastrous negotiation tactic is to ever lie or be known as a liar. Most negotiations end when mistrust evolves. The purpose of negotiation is to build trust because you end up with better terms if the other side trusts you. I doubt Coyle has done anything behind the scenes because he claims to have not begun his search. In fact, he said he won't begin in earnest until after Sunday. Those were his words. That is an admission that he has no plan in finding a replacement nor the skills to manage his time to start the process during a busy period. Executives must have the ability to navigate multiple crisis at a time. It is requisite for that level or responsibility.
Just a thought experiment.Is this a bit? Lol
LOL sorry no. Rick Pitino is 73. It isn't stopping him. 70 is the new 60.Interesting and realistic take that I mostly agree with, but Herb Sendek is a pretty old guy now and hasn’t been in Power 5 for at least a decade. There has to be candidates that meet your criteria that are better prepared for the grind and not in the sunset of their careers.
When season ticket purchases fall year-over-year and ticket prices with them, it is a failure to understand the value of money. Coyle is making the mistake of believing a budget determines cash flow and profitability. The only thing that does is the product. Right now, the product is crap making the budget garbage.Inspiring. What a knucklehead.
I would hire for the long term and not hold to a short-term hire.LOL sorry no. Rick Pitino is 73. It isn't stopping him. 70 is the new 60.
Minnesota is not an entry level job. Whoever is hired is going to need to have experience working in environments where you don't have all of the advantages. Because being honest, Minnesota has few.
If it was me I'd probably hire for the right skill set rather than engage in age discrimination.
But hey if you want to hire another greenhorn and wonder why it doesn't work...
I'm open to other veteran options but honestly most of the ones with the skill set are already in major conference jobs.
He has stated the regents expect him to follow a budget. Blame the correct party.When season ticket purchases fall year-over-year and ticket prices with them, it is a failure to understand the value of money. Coyle is making the mistake of believing a budget determines cash flow and profitability. The only thing that does is the product. Right now, the product is crap making the budget garbage.
That gives him wide discretion as AD. The correct party remains blamed.He has stated the regents expect him to follow a budget. Blame the correct party.
Here one from me. Who is Marc McCallum?No bit. It would be helpful, to me, if you actually had a question. Seeing none.
Oops. Ben McCollum. Had Marc Coyle trapped in my thoughts. 4 time DII finals and current Drake head coach.Here one from me. Who is Marc McCallum?
Hahahaha. Beat me to it.Here one from me. Who is Marc McCallum?
If Coyle lied to the press when he claimed to have not even begun his job search, how would you, as a job candidate, begin to trust his word if you knew he lied to the public? How would you? The most disastrous negotiation tactic is to ever lie or be known as a liar. Most negotiations end when mistrust evolves. The purpose of negotiation is to build trust because you end up with better terms if the other side trusts you. I doubt Coyle has done anything behind the scenes because he claims to have not begun his search. In fact, he said he won't begin in earnest until after Sunday. Those were his words. That is an admission that he has no plan in finding a replacement nor the skills to manage his time to start the process during a busy period. Executives must have the ability to navigate multiple crisis at a time. It is requisite for that level or responsibility.
Herb Sendek??If Indiana hires McCollum, that strikes me as a sign of where they are - a guy 2 years out of D2 at Indiana? Doesn't scream power hire to me for a program at that level.
But whatever.
Minnesota has its own problems and plenty of them. The Gophers basically need a coach that can raise the level of the program without having all of the advantages. Coyle is fooling himself or others when he said there's no reason Minnesota can't win conference championships. It's been 30 years since the Gophers even were above .500 in the conference 2 years in a row. But you can always make a program better than when you arrived and that should be the immediate goal -- with the portal, you don't need to wait 4 years for that.
Minnesota basically needs another Tubby Smith - only one for the modern era of cbk.
Herb Sendek is the kind of Tubby-esque coach -- not saying there aren't others that fit the description -- that can have success at Minnesota, and there are a lot of good coaches that would be good elsewhere that couldn't. Like Richard Pitino.
I have no idea if he is on Coyle's short or long list.
There is no long term in college sports anymore.I would hire for the long term and not hold to a short-term hire.
Does anyone care about getting fans engaged? You know….the customers? Are we protecting jobs and egos or are we going to get aggressive?Saying that is setting yourself up for failure.
Well, with a detailed, well-reasoned argument like that...Herb Sendek??
Good lord. No. What a terrible idea.
Not once did I even suggest Coyle disclose a specific name. Nor, could it be inferred.If my team was headed to the NCAA Tournament and I had discussions with Mark Coyle in February about the Gopher job, I sure as heck would love to have Mark to tell the world about it now.
Dawn Plitzuweit was hired the day after her team lost in the tournament. Bob Motzko would've been the exact same except his team choked in the tournament and they waited a couple of days so everyone would forget.
Did you have a stroke? Who the hell are Marc Coyle and Marc McCallum?MC seems to crave stability over growth. I just read that Indiana is the front running candidate for four time national champion DII coach and current Drake coach Ben McCullum. Why? Because they have a rational AD who began the search before their existing coach retires. So a team with a seated coach began looking for a coach PRIOR to the separation of their existing head coach. MC has ADMITTED in the presser to have just begun the search process TODAY. Unlike Indiana, we have yet to contact potential head coaches because our AD has ZERO FORESIGHT into his own decision-making process. He cannot see his own decisions into the future. Let me repeat that. Marc Coyle cannot predict his own decisions into the future to plan possible alternatives and scenarios. This is a damning bit of self-testimony to say he is just beginning the search when IU began their search long ago and already have lead candidates with HIGH POTENTIAL and proven track records. For this very simple mental exercise of self-determination alone, MC should be walked to the door as the head of the AD. It proves to me he has no concept of strategic planning beyond stability. Growth and change are not real to him. Reading about McCallum told me we are not even in the game as a serious contender. If we end up with a lesser hire than Marc McCallum, I will demand that Marc Coyle be walked off campus. Marc Coyle is the disaster.
Fans will engage with winning, big names. Just saying crap shouldn't engage fans much as we all know words and actions are two different things.Does anyone care about getting fans engaged? You know….the customers? Are we protecting jobs and egos or are we going to get aggressive?
MushTush is just having an "oh shit...were out of pudding" style tantrum. We all have reason to be worried about Coyle's next hire, though.Is this a bit?.....it has to be a bit.....no way anyone can be this clueless on how things work when coaches are hired and fired in sports.
There is no long term in college sports anymore.
Coach | Years Tenure | Wins this year |
Tom Izzo | 30 | 25 |
Matt Painter | 20 | 23 |
Fran McCaffery | 15 | 22 |
Chris Collins | 12 | 19 |
Greg Gard | 10 | 22 |
Steve Pikiell | 9 | 18 |
Brad Underwood | 8 | 20 |
Mike Cronin | 6 | 21 |
Mike Woodson | 4 | 18 |
Ben Johnson | 4 | 14 |
Kevin Willard | 3 | 16 |
Mike Rhoades | 2 | 13 |
Jake Diebler | 1 | 14 |
Eric Musselman | 1 | 20 |
Dusty May | 1 | 12 |
Danny Sprinkle | 1 | 14 |
This is why I never put anyone on ignore. This board is endless entertainment. I’m the same with this basketball team, once you learn it’s entertainment, your emotional highs and lows become muted in either direction. I love gopher hoops but my life will never be so involved emotionally with it to ruin my day .Some of the same people who wanted Coyle to fire the head coach which he did also think Coyle will screw up the hiring of the next coach.
Then why fire the current head coach if you’re just going to screw up the new hire?
GHole never change. You provide endless entertainment.