Weakling Wednesday Final Weekend: Iowa @ Nebraska for the Final "Chair and a Chance"

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BTChamp said:
When I think of the term "dropouts", I'm reminded of when I fart too hard. At least in terms of this.
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If stuff drops out when you fart to hard.....ummmm....hate to break it to you but that isn't farting anymore.... :)
 

MNVCGUY said:
If stuff drops out when you fart to hard.....ummmm....hate to break it to you but that isn't farting anymore.... :)
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And for some reason it only seems to happen in the fetal position after Gopher losses. Convulsing. :ROFLMAO:
 

Through Feb. 3
15. Penn State (3-8)
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Weakling Wednesday Dropouts
16. Minnesota (3-8)
17. Northwestern (3-8)
18. Washington (2-8)

Tuesday Slate
Purdue (9-2) @ Iowa (4-6), 6 (Peacock)
Minnesota (3-8) @ Penn State (3-8), 6 (BTN)
Indiana (5-6) @ Wisconsin (7-4), 8 (Peacock)
USC (5-5) @ Northwestern (3-8), 8 (BTN)
Michigan State (9-1) @ UCLA (7-4), 9 (Peacock)
 

Michigan State-UCLA should be a good battle.
 



Since Iowa lost their big man I don’t see them winning another game this year. Should make it easier for the Gophers to get into the Big 10 tourney.
 

Through Feb. 4
15. Minnesota (4-8)
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Weakling Wednesday Dropouts
16. Northwestern (4-8)
17. Penn State (3-9)
18. Washington (2-8)

Wednesday Slate
Oregon (5-6) @ Michigan (8-2), 5:30 (BTN)
Illinois (7-5) @ Rutgers (4-7), 7:30 (BTN)
Nebraska (4-7) @ Washington (2-8), 9:30 (BTN)
 

SelectionSunday said:
Through Feb. 4
15. Minnesota (4-8)
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Weakling Wednesday Dropouts
16. Northwestern (4-8)
17. Penn State (3-9)
18. Washington (2-8)

Wednesday Slate
Oregon (5-6) @ Michigan (8-2), 5:30 (BTN)
Illinois (7-5) @ Rutgers (4-7), 7:30 (BTN)
Nebraska (4-7) @ Washington (2-8), 9:30 (BTN)
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Northwestern and MN won. Don’t the standings stay the same with MN in 16th?
 

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SelectionSunday said:
Overall record isn’t a tiebreaker. Teams haven’t played, so edge goes to Gophers due to their win over 3rd place Michigan. Northwestern best win is over 6th place Maryland.
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Big Ten website lists Northwestern ahead of us but it looks like they are using overall win percentage to separate tied teams. Probably just for simplicity though as that makes for an easy way to sort the teams without messing with all the tie breaker stuff.
 

SelectionSunday said:
Through Feb. 4
15. Minnesota (4-8)
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Weakling Wednesday Dropouts
16. Northwestern (4-8)
17. Penn State (3-9)
18. Washington (2-8)

Wednesday Slate
Oregon (5-6) @ Michigan (8-2), 5:30 (BTN)
Illinois (7-5) @ Rutgers (4-7), 7:30 (BTN)
Nebraska (4-7) @ Washington (2-8), 9:30 (BTN)
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I'd say that there's a fair chance of Rutgers and Nebraska joining our 4-8 group after tonight and Iowa could do the same soon. Of course, we have a pretty good chance of losing our next game too.
 


TwistingMyMelon said:
I'd say that there's a fair chance of Rutgers and Nebraska joining our 4-8 group after tonight and Iowa could do the same soon. Of course, we have a pretty good chance of losing our next game too.
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3 teams missing out on the Big Ten Tournament will add some intrigue to the end of the season as there are likely to be a decent # of teams in danger of potentially missing the cut.
 




TwistingMyMelon said:
I'd say that there's a fair chance of Rutgers and Nebraska joining our 4-8 group after tonight and Iowa could do the same soon. Of course, we have a pretty good chance of losing our next game too.
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For sure. We always allow flexibilty and revisits with the Dropouts Crew. And perhaps I was premature counting out Northwestern sans Barnhizer.

One thing already apparent is I was way off suggesting 5 wins could earn a spot in Weakling Wednesday. My guess now is it'll probably take 7? Maybe #15 has 6? The bottom of the conference has been performing pretty decent.
 

Ope3 said:
Sort of like regulation in the Premier League.
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Well, it’s relegation, but yes, I’ve been seeing the parallel from the time they announced that 3 teams would be left out. It does add intrigue to the bottom of the table battles.
 

formerlybis said:
Well, it’s relegation, but yes, I’ve been seeing the parallel from the time they announced that 3 teams would be left out. It does add intrigue to the bottom of the table battles.
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To me, this exaggerated idea of "intrigue" is equivalent to being interested in who will win the Toilet Bowl in your Fantasy Football league.
 

SelectionSunday said:
One thing already apparent is I was way off suggesting 5 wins could earn a spot in Weakling Wednesday. My guess now is it'll probably take 7? Maybe #15 has 6? The bottom of the conference has been performing pretty decent.
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I'd say that's about right. At least 6 wins. If we can't win two of the remaining eight, then we certainly deserve to be excluded. We only play three more teams with winning conference records as of today.
 

Slim Tubby said:
To me, this exaggerated idea of "intrigue" is equivalent to being interested in who will win the Toilet Bowl in your Fantasy Football league.
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Yeah, the stakes aren’t nearly as high as EPL - good point. I was thinking that the 3 coaches of the “relegated” lose their jobs, but I don’t think that’ll be true for the west coast UW if they’re one of them, nor PSU.
 

formerlybis said:
Yeah, the stakes aren’t nearly as high as EPL - good point. I was thinking that the 3 coaches of the “relegated” lose their jobs, but I don’t think that’ll be true for the west coast UW if they’re one of them, nor PSU.
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The biggest difference with the EPL is you don't get kicked out of the B1G for finishing in the bottom three (3) and relegated down to the MAC.

Now that would certainly create some intrigue.
 

Interesting conjecture re/ relegation. So in a thought experiment, Washington, PSU, and maybe the Gophers get relegated, replaced by say Drake, Illinois State, Bradley?
 

restovich said:
Interesting conjecture re/ relegation. So in a thought experiment, Washington, PSU, and maybe the Gophers get relegated, replaced by say Drake, Illinois State, Bradley?
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Maybe not actually but monetary. Since they wouldn’t be playing in the BIG tournament they would get a smaller piece of the $ pie.
 

Slim Tubby said:
The biggest difference with the EPL is you don't get kicked out of the B1G for finishing in the bottom three (3) and relegated down to the MAC.

Now that would certainly create some intrigue.
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Yeah, ain't happenin' of course. However, if I was designing this, I'd throw all the P5 teams together and then create 5 tiers with promotion and relegation after every year. Mid majors ain't gonna like it, but this is fantasy anyway.

It's more interesting in the pros - instead of tanking to get the #1 draft pick, you are a lot more concerned with just staying in the league.
 

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blevanhoval said:
Here are some charts breaking down current Big Ten odds. Looks like 7 wins is the number as long as you have some tiebreakers in your back pocket as of now.


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These definitely are interesting to view but the problem with analyses like these is that they appear to be projecting from season long data that doesn't factor in significant changes in circumstances. Sagarin no longer does basketball apparently but Sagarin offers multiple ratings with some accounting for changes in circumstances like "Recent" and "Strong Recent" in football. These weight earlier observations less.

Iowa will go the rest of the season without its center (Owen Freeman) and Northwestern, already a team without a lot of depth, will have to go the remainder of the season without Brooks Barnhizer. Both of these are top 2 players on their teams.

The JThom analysis at least provides a range of possibilities for each team.
 


Through Feb. 5
15. Minnesota (4-8)
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Weakling Wednesday Dropouts
16. Northwestern (4-8)
17. Penn State (3-9)
18. Washington (2-9)

Thursday Slate
Maryland (7-4) @ Ohio State (5-6), 6 (FS1)
 

SelectionSunday said:
Through Feb. 5
15. Minnesota (4-8)
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Weakling Wednesday Dropouts
16. Northwestern (4-8)
17. Penn State (3-9)
18. Washington (2-9)

Thursday Slate
Maryland (7-4) @ Ohio State (5-6), 6 (FS1)
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I have to say that I was displeased by last night's results. Hoped that both Rutgers and Nebraska would lose in order to fatten the bottom of the conference. Also preferred a less desperate Illinois on Saturday. Guess I have to hope that whatever plagued them on Wednesday continues.
 

TwistingMyMelon said:
I have to say that I was displeased by last night's results. Hoped that both Rutgers and Nebraska would lose in order to fatten the bottom of the conference. Also preferred a less desperate Illinois on Saturday. Guess I have to hope that whatever plagued them on Wednesday continues.
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Why are we hoping to have one more game before Ben gets fired? In the end either the boys get one more game (two if there's a miracle) or they're done with the season. No fan should stress over such low fruit.
 

SelectionSunday said:
Through Feb. 5
15. Minnesota (4-8)
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Weakling Wednesday Dropouts
16. Northwestern (4-8)
17. Penn State (3-9)
18. Washington (2-9)

Thursday Slate
Maryland (7-4) @ Ohio State (5-6), 6 (FS1)
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I think Iowa has a pretty good chance to finish bottom three. If Minnesota loses the Penn St rematch and they split... is it point differential or some other tie breaker? if they finish with the same number of wins?
 

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