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SadlyOptimistic said:
Two separate K-Zoo reporters reporting it as well, one even said PJ Fleck told them himself:

https://twitter.com/KirkMasonWWMT/status/817351250350133248

https://twitter.com/WWMTAndyD/status/817350461678292993


I'd love to go back to the hundreds and hundreds of people on Twitter who, over the last 48 hours, said "Fleck would NEVER come to that dumpster fire at Minnesota" and share this picture with them:

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One thing this hire does is show that Minnesota *can* be viewed as a pretty nice job. Something I didn't think was possible given the goat rodeo of the past month.
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I just keep saying goat rodeo to myself and laughing hysterically. Thank you for that.

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skauma said:
"row the boat" reminds me much more of Kill's "brick by brick," than anything Brewster ever did.
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It's certainly not "get that chili hot!"

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Winasota Gopher said:
DP

I'm curious, you've usually got a very level-headed, pragmatic opinion. What're your thoughts on PJ?
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Thanks for asking. First, though they are two separate decisions, Claeys was rawdogged by Coyle. His performance had virtually nothing to do with his firing. It's become evident that his fate was sealed short of anything that made it impossible to terminate him (e.g., Big Ten title or CFP appearance). Coyle was put in place to make these decisions and, while he's fully within his rights to do so, it is still an affront to my sense of equity and fairness.

That being said, it would be difficult to envision us coming out of this debacle in a better position. I am and have been a big P.J. Fleck fan for a long time. Coyle clearly keyed in on him as his #1 target long ago and stuck to his plan to make it happen. The interest was also clearly mutual, which explains why he either rebuffed or half-heartedly pursued other opportunities. We've made a commitment in facilities, and now we're making a personnel investment that is completely unprecedented and totally out of character for the U. Brewster brought a lot of enthusiasm back to Gopher football, Kill took it to another level, and Fleck will take it to heights perhaps never seen before. We'll see if the on-field performance can match that, but he inherits a good squad and has proven it at the lower levels. I expect transfers to be minimal if not non-existent, and we're going to give him every opportunity to succeed on his terms. It's a pretty exciting day.
 


Gopher2017 said:
Didn't know you needed everything spelled out for you. My apologies. I'll type slower for you next time.
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Nice try, but what you actually said is available for anyone to read. If you intended to convey something different, perhaps you should have communicated more clearly.
 

dpodoll68 said:
Thanks for asking. First, though they are two separate decisions, Claeys was rawdogged by Coyle. His performance had virtually nothing to do with his firing. It's become evident that his fate was sealed short of anything that made it impossible to terminate him (e.g., Big Ten title or CFP appearance). Coyle was put in place to make these decisions and, while he's fully within his rights to do so, it is still an affront to my sense of equity and fairness.

That being said, it would be difficult to envision us coming out of this debacle in a better position. I am and have been a big P.J. Fleck fan for a long time. Coyle clearly keyed in on him as his #1 target long ago and stuck to his plan to make it happen. The interest was also clearly mutual, which explains why he either rebuffed or half-heartedly pursued other opportunities. We've made a commitment in facilities, and now we're making a personnel investment that is completely unprecedented and totally out of character for the U. Brewster brought a lot of enthusiasm back to Gopher football, Kill took it to another level, and Fleck will take it to heights perhaps never seen before. We'll see if the on-field performance can match that, but he inherits a good squad and has proven it at the lower levels. I expect transfers to be minimal if not non-existent, and we're going to give him every opportunity to succeed on his terms. It's a pretty exciting day.
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Well said. Fleck is the perfect hire for the Gophers at this time.
 

dpodoll68 said:
Nice try, but what you actually said is available for anyone to read. If you intended to convey something different, perhaps you should have communicated more clearly.
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Let it go, Peaches. You're a TC fan and looking for anything that helps you feel superior in your hour of need. Time to move on and know that TC isn't coming back.
 

dpodoll68 said:
Thanks for asking. First, though they are two separate decisions, Claeys was rawdogged by Coyle. His performance had virtually nothing to do with his firing. It's become evident that his fate was sealed short of anything that made it impossible to terminate him (e.g., Big Ten title or CFP appearance). Coyle was put in place to make these decisions and, while he's fully within his rights to do so, it is still an affront to my sense of equity and fairness.

That being said, it would be difficult to envision us coming out of this debacle in a better position. I am and have been a big P.J. Fleck fan for a long time. Coyle clearly keyed in on him as his #1 target long ago and stuck to his plan to make it happen. The interest was also clearly mutual, which explains why he either rebuffed or half-heartedly pursued other opportunities. We've made a commitment in facilities, and now we're making a personnel investment that is completely unprecedented and totally out of character for the U. Brewster brought a lot of enthusiasm back to Gopher football, Kill took it to another level, and Fleck will take it to heights perhaps never seen before. We'll see if the on-field performance can match that, but he inherits a good squad and has proven it at the lower levels. I expect transfers to be minimal if not non-existent, and we're going to give him every opportunity to succeed on his terms. It's a pretty exciting day.
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good stuff. you are one of my favorite posters.
 



dpodoll68 said:
Thanks for asking. First, though they are two separate decisions, Claeys was rawdogged by Coyle. His performance had virtually nothing to do with his firing. It's become evident that his fate was sealed short of anything that made it impossible to terminate him (e.g., Big Ten title or CFP appearance). Coyle was put in place to make these decisions and, while he's fully within his rights to do so, it is still an affront to my sense of equity and fairness.

That being said, it would be difficult to envision us coming out of this debacle in a better position. I am and have been a big P.J. Fleck fan for a long time. Coyle clearly keyed in on him as his #1 target long ago and stuck to his plan to make it happen. The interest was also clearly mutual, which explains why he either rebuffed or half-heartedly pursued other opportunities. We've made a commitment in facilities, and now we're making a personnel investment that is completely unprecedented and totally out of character for the U. Brewster brought a lot of enthusiasm back to Gopher football, Kill took it to another level, and Fleck will take it to heights perhaps never seen before. We'll see if the on-field performance can match that, but he inherits a good squad and has proven it at the lower levels. I expect transfers to be minimal if not non-existent, and we're going to give him every opportunity to succeed on his terms. It's a pretty exciting day.
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Well stated. Pretty much my take as well. I will forever think that they gave Claeys a raw deal but you have to give them credit for zeroing in on their guy and getting him. That's his job as AD. I just hope he can learn from how the whole Claeys ordeal went down.
 

dpodoll68 said:
Thanks for asking. First, though they are two separate decisions, Claeys was rawdogged by Coyle. His performance had virtually nothing to do with his firing. It's become evident that his fate was sealed short of anything that made it impossible to terminate him (e.g., Big Ten title or CFP appearance). Coyle was put in place to make these decisions and, while he's fully within his rights to do so, it is still an affront to my sense of equity and fairness.

That being said, it would be difficult to envision us coming out of this debacle in a better position. I am and have been a big P.J. Fleck fan for a long time. Coyle clearly keyed in on him as his #1 target long ago and stuck to his plan to make it happen. The interest was also clearly mutual, which explains why he either rebuffed or half-heartedly pursued other opportunities. We've made a commitment in facilities, and now we're making a personnel investment that is completely unprecedented and totally out of character for the U. Brewster brought a lot of enthusiasm back to Gopher football, Kill took it to another level, and Fleck will take it to heights perhaps never seen before. We'll see if the on-field performance can match that, but he inherits a good squad and has proven it at the lower levels. I expect transfers to be minimal if not non-existent, and we're going to give him every opportunity to succeed on his terms. It's a pretty exciting day.
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I echo this almost to a T.
 

Gopher2017 said:
Let it go, Peaches. You're a TC fan and looking for anything that helps you feel superior in your hour of need. Time to move on and know that TC isn't coming back.
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I don't need to look for anything to know with 100% certainty that I am superior to you. Read my long post, champ.
 

Gopher2017 said:
Didn't know you needed everything spelled out for you. My apologies. I'll type slower for you next time.
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Not sure if what you think you wrote matches what you actually wrote. Maybe you meant "since the firing of Kill", instead of "since the hiring of Kill"?

This is what you wrote:
For the first time since the hiring of Kill I'm excited about Gopher football (if this hire is true).



(Yes i know Kill wasnt fired just trying to understand the innerweb fight going on and why he's sticking to this argument)
 



Gopher2017 said:
Let it go, Peaches. You're a TC fan and looking for anything that helps you feel superior in your hour of need. Time to move on and know that TC isn't coming back.
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He did move on. He said it was an "exciting day" and "Fleck will take [the program] to new heights."
 






Gopher2017 said:
Didn't know you needed everything spelled out for you. My apologies. I'll type slower for you next time.
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My guess is pretty much anyone who read "since Kill was hired" would think you meant "since Kill was hired" and not "since Kill left the program".
 

dpodoll68 said:
Thanks for asking. First, though they are two separate decisions, Claeys was rawdogged by Coyle. His performance had virtually nothing to do with his firing. It's become evident that his fate was sealed short of anything that made it impossible to terminate him (e.g., Big Ten title or CFP appearance). Coyle was put in place to make these decisions and, while he's fully within his rights to do so, it is still an affront to my sense of equity and fairness.

That being said, it would be difficult to envision us coming out of this debacle in a better position. I am and have been a big P.J. Fleck fan for a long time. Coyle clearly keyed in on him as his #1 target long ago and stuck to his plan to make it happen. The interest was also clearly mutual, which explains why he either rebuffed or half-heartedly pursued other opportunities. We've made a commitment in facilities, and now we're making a personnel investment that is completely unprecedented and totally out of character for the U. Brewster brought a lot of enthusiasm back to Gopher football, Kill took it to another level, and Fleck will take it to heights perhaps never seen before. We'll see if the on-field performance can match that, but he inherits a good squad and has proven it at the lower levels. I expect transfers to be minimal if not non-existent, and we're going to give him every opportunity to succeed on his terms. It's a pretty exciting day.
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Good read.

Thanks for sharing.

I know nothing about PJ other than he put together a nice run at Western Michigan (if you can call undefeated and Cotton Bowl appearance "Nice"). My question is can he recruit at a top teir Big 10 level to Minnesota, or is he going to be a Kill type that "coaches em up"?

I've often thought you can motivate 2 stars to beat 3 stars. But thats a different game when its 3 stars vs 4 and 5 stars over a representative sample size of games. (not saying I buy into the recruiting sites, just the concept of size and talent differential) And that's essentially what he will have to do UNLESS the facilities, plus his sales pitch = another significant uptick in recruiting.

Kill/TC had our best class in a while last year and it still was middle of the pack in the b1g was it not?

I'm a huge Pitino fan, and I see this guy being of the similar ilk with regards to relating to players (Pitino isn't as full of rah rah as PJ apears to be), so my hopes are high, but I'm cautiously optimistic as any true Gopher fan should be.
 




jnona14 said:
Won't even ask you guys for an apology
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I have nothing to apologize for. I believed you all the way. ;) Really, there was always a ring of truth to the Fleck stuff. It seems like the news we were getting from more official sources was behind in the timeline, making it seem that negotiations were breaking down when in fact they were further along in the process.
 

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dpodoll68 said:
Thanks for asking. First, though they are two separate decisions, Claeys was rawdogged by Coyle. His performance had virtually nothing to do with his firing. It's become evident that his fate was sealed short of anything that made it impossible to terminate him (e.g., Big Ten title or CFP appearance). Coyle was put in place to make these decisions and, while he's fully within his rights to do so, it is still an affront to my sense of equity and fairness.

That being said, it would be difficult to envision us coming out of this debacle in a better position. I am and have been a big P.J. Fleck fan for a long time. Coyle clearly keyed in on him as his #1 target long ago and stuck to his plan to make it happen. The interest was also clearly mutual, which explains why he either rebuffed or half-heartedly pursued other opportunities. We've made a commitment in facilities, and now we're making a personnel investment that is completely unprecedented and totally out of character for the U. Brewster brought a lot of enthusiasm back to Gopher football, Kill took it to another level, and Fleck will take it to heights perhaps never seen before. We'll see if the on-field performance can match that, but he inherits a good squad and has proven it at the lower levels. I expect transfers to be minimal if not non-existent, and we're going to give him every opportunity to succeed on his terms. It's a pretty exciting day.
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This took me awhile...you're saying this turned from lemons to lemonade? Good post, I agree (I think ;))
 



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